Forums → WEPR → So how 'bout that Marijuana? Do you think it should be legal?

Grades in school will go down.

But what about all those years where the economy was fine?

I actually wanted to die.

It only cauzes lung cancer? Really?

Debates on a gaming web site? What sort of magic is this? O......You're the type of gamers who link Kat Williams and south park to make your points for you. I'd like to apologize for any misunderstandings, it's 2:00 AM, And my mind is not as sharp as it is during the day.

Well, I should be very clear right off the start, I am a daily smoker, and by no stretch of the imagination am I a slacker, or a genius, or an innovative young chap who is going to make millions off some great product I'm going to sell to the masses. I am just a normal guy, like you may find anywhere.

So why did I start smoking? Well, it is a mix of a number of reasons. Curiosity, it being present, knowledge, and some bad problems. So Curiosity you ask? But, "that killed the cat" you say, well your cat sticks it's head in the oven, without thinking about it. I was curious of a lot of things, but I'd never do them without knowledge. I can't tell you the hours of documentaries I have watched, the hours of studies I have read, and the number of people I had observed before I tried it. So like ever one in life, i had some tough stuff happening, I won't delve into your soft spots, because you could go ask a man on the street why his children don't respect him and end up feeling the same way. So I was in a sad state, and marijuana was around at a friends, and I got offered some. Now I knew what it was, what it did, how it did it, what it was the made it do that, where it came from, how to grow it, how to cook it, I knew terms, and names of marijuana advocates, and the names of the ones keeping it illegal, but, I didn't know how it felt on me. So I did it. I felt nothing. So a few days later, I did it again, a bit of a tingle that time, and after a few more times the backs of my eyes opened up, and suddenly the world was new. Brights where brighter, darks where darker, sound was clearer, thinking was easier, the past was recalled in the snap of my fingers.......then I got hungry. This was awesome, because I'm 6'2 and 145 pounds, meaning I don't eat much, at all. It's not that I don't like food, but my appetite must be broken, because I have to force my self to eat, and normally involves much shoving food down with drinks. And then, after I worked through as much food as a normal person eats in one meal, I fell asleep. This is the kid who stays up until 4 just because he isn't tired. I was tired! I could sleep, and it was like I was normal for once. Now sure at this point, you're all going "Well you know you could go to doctors and get medicine!" Well, indeed I could. But have you ever seen commercials for medicine? It's the name of the medicine with a voice over explaining the many ways it can ill you. And marijuana....has no side effects. "But smoking is bad for your lungs!" Touche, but It can be cooked into food, which makes the high better and longer, and this doesn't have any smoke at all.

I saw a lot of "well marijuana ruined such-and-such" I'm very sorry to hear that your friend/sister/dog ruined there life, but marijuana wasn't the cause. Sure, it may of been present, and just because that was the only constant in there life, does not mean it caused the world to change. I smoked for two months with only a few people knowing. Then I stopped for a month. No one noticed a change in my behavior. And if they did, no one opened there mouth, which they would of had the change been drastic. So I started again. I smoked for a year after that, nothing changed. Grades stayed the same, friends stayed the same, and I made new ones, I was working, making good money (fixing pipe organs and such, it was an awesome job, though irrelevant here) I was a happy guy. I use it as an enhancer, not a problem solver. And that's where the danger is, problem solving. People get stressed, and eat, or drink, or what ever. And some people, smoke pot. THAT is when addiction sets in, on a mental level. Physical addiction to it can not occur.

So now to tackle the "it kills brain cells!" I think it is important to understand where this came from.

It came from a study, and i greatly wish I could remember which one, but in this study, they gave monkeys two joints a day, over 30 years.

"30 years? Do monkeys live that long?"
"Good question, I know! Lets give them the equivalent of 2 joints a day for 30 years!"
"Genius!"

And that is what they did! In fact, these monkeys smoked as much as 30 blunts a day....through a gas mask. Now for those of you who don't know what gas masking is, it pumps smoke through an air tight gas mask to your face. You breath smoke, and only smoke. So...smoke + more smoke + no oxygen = oxygen deprivation! Which, you guessed it, kills brain cells.


It seems odd, that people still think it needs to be illegal when the best and brightest approved it under Nixon.

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I present to you ladies and gents, the Schaffer report. Commissioned by President Richard M. Nixon, March, 1972 it was created for Nixon to get a better understanding of public enemy number one. And when the results came back, showing that It should be decriminalized, Nixon was all "O no you didn't!" snapped his fingers and threw it away, literally.

So when did marijuana hatred all begin? In the early 1900's. This is when many People from Mexico started moving north, and brought marijuana (An unknown plant at this time) To North America. They would work for less then Americas, and soon started taking there jobs...and where better at them. Eventually the finger was pointed at the plant they smoked, it must be giving them super powers! After a few state and local laws where passed against it The marihuana tax act of 1937 was passed. The Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 made possession or transfer of cannabis illegal throughout the United States under federal law, excluding medical and industrial uses, in which an expensive excise tax was required.....but here's the catch. No stamps where ever given out, making it basically illegal. So industrial uses? Yes, industrial. There is a kind of marijuana known as hemp. Hemp is not a smoke able plant, but can be used for paper, and rope, food, clothing, any thing. Hell, a copy of the deceleration of independence was written on hemp. It is of higher quality material then most, and it is cheap to produce, easy to see why no one wants it around. It would put under cotton, the timber industry, the grain industry, you see a theme here?

"Alright, so we got rid of that..."
"I'm bored, now what"
"...Want to scare people?"

*high five to angelic chorus"

Harry J. Anslinger made him self the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, passed the tax act, and now, was gonna scared you, nice guy right?



Not much now, but back then, this was scary. What if your kids did this? Or a cousin? Or uncle? They might kill you!


So Where does this all leave you? The current day marijuana debate, filled with more opinions and egos, then care for what's right or correct, but regardless of your opinion, please, don't stand there and say you know what you're talking about, or that you understand marijuana if your experience does not go beyond a classroom setting.








I copied this over from another post I made on a different website. I think so of the videos may of fallen out, but.....o well

It should be legal. Alcohol and tobacco are both more addictive. And when you smoke it you are less intoxicated than when you are drunk. AND it is much less hazardous for your health than smoking.

It's not that we want people to get high, but why would it be illegal? It's not hurting anyone if they smoke pot, it should be their choice. With that logic, alcohol and cigarettes should be illegal as well.

no it shouldnt be legal... its a drug and drugs are drugs i dont care if you say its not as bad as other drugs.. cause they are all the same to me drugs ruin ur life and others.. i would know about drugs my life got destroyed by drugs and i didnt even do them..

in my mind marijuana should be legal. it would lower crime rates, it would create jobs, the gorvernment could tax the hell out of it, it can create new trade markets, overall it would be a good thing.

It shouldn't be made 100% legal no - it's bad enough that youngsters can get it, but if it was legal and more readily available, i think you'd see a upsurge of younger kids getting addicted to it.

and I certainly wasn't happy. I actually wanted to die.

it can effect the work enviroment if that stuff is legailized.

I don't think it will really help the economy, I think it will hurt it more because marijanna makes you VERY lazy.

I don't think it will really help the economy, I think it will hurt it more because marijanna makes you VERY lazy.

Well like I said before, just smelling some of that stuff can make you high, an that's not even when it's smoked,

what i'm saying is it can effect the work enviroment if that stuff is legailized.

In response to the gateway theory:

Yes, a gate way drug. Well, it is true that 80% of crack users had used marijuana, but only 2% of Marijuana users ever moved on to harder drugs.

So you are saying that is a gateway drug? It makes sense that the most widely used drug would come first. And i really isn't a gateway, when 2% of smokers ever move on.

This brings up another fun topic. Would you have Marijuana stay as a schedule one drug? Crack is a schedule two drug....so you're telling me Marijuana is a gate way drug, to a drug that is less harmful? No! Crack is HIGHLY addictive and Can kill you!

And something else fun about swat teams and pot

So someone tells the police that I have pot. Well, they need to go get a warrant to search my house for marijuana. So they get it, now the police is there to protect and serve, they can't have them breaking into homes, what if they are need somewhere? So they have the SWAT, who is there to do a job. There job, get your pot and do whatever it takes to get it.

So now the swat is coming to your house, hurray! Better make them some tea! O, you mean they didn't tell you they where coming, how rude! Well when they knock you'll know.....o that's right, they don't knock, they just burst your door down with out any warning in the dead of night.

Under normal conditions hearing someone break into your house is cause for concern, and cause for grabbing a gun in order to protect your self and your property, and you can have a gun, the constitution, the backbone of our nation, says so. In fact, it's number 2. But, it turns out the people in your house, are the swat team! You can't shoot the swat team....but how did you know it was the SWAT who was there? You didn't, that's how. If the police knock on your door, they announce them selves to avoid a situation like that, but not the swat.

The SWAT is there to do a job as I mentioned, this job, get your pot, and not die doing it. So even though it is your right to have a weapon at that point, they can still shoot you, and will receive no penalty in court later. Though, had you shot at any other intruder, you'd be innocent in court.

So your dead....why? You had pot, the SWAT came unannounced, you went to rid your home of an unknown intruder, and got shot. All because you had pot. The end.


Cigarettes and pot

So every one says that smoking pot is bad because of the high tar content. Well, this is true. One Marijuana joint contains twice as much tar as a cigarette, however, you don't smoke 20 joints a day.

Some people smoke 60 cigarettes a day, while people will smoke a joint every other day or even every day. Cigarettes are still more harmful

i think mari should be legal 'cause its good for life, can be health...

Some people smoke 60 cigarettes a day, while people will smoke a joint every other day or even every day. Cigarettes are still more harmful

Ah but take in to account those who do not smoke cigs, but do smoke pot.

I don't think so. Unless its grown by the government for i know that it can cure one type of cancer.

If pot was legalized, the government could do what they do best, and regulate the hell out of it. They could control who can sell it (like an alcohol license), who could buy it (a minimum age), and how much it is legal to smoke at one time, and still perform day to day things like driving. Plus, they could tax the hell out of it. The US government is in serious debt right now, and they badly need the revenue. Also, it would still be cheeper than what the dealers would sell, so more kids would be off the streets burglarizing and robbing to support their habits.

Cigarettes contain half as much tar as a marijuana cigarette, but people don't smoke 60 of those a day. They might smoke one a day, and that's a heavy marijuana user.

or i know that it can cure one type of cancer.

If pot was legalized, the government could do what they do best, and regulate the hell out of it. They could control who can sell it (like an alcohol license), who could buy it (a minimum age), and how much it is legal to smoke at one time, and still perform day to day things like driving. Plus, they could tax the hell out of it. The US government is in serious debt right now, and they badly need the revenue. Also, it would still be cheeper than what the dealers would sell, so more kids would be off the streets burglarizing and robbing to support their habits.

The problem with an age limit on pot is the same with alcohol - the fact it would be legal/ widely available to the population, younger kinds could get hold of it very easily - if they had a sibling above the minimum age: or people dealing it to kids for a higher price.