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zakyman
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If God were proven beyond any doubt, if God literally appeared out of the sky to all of the world to see and proclaimed him/her/itself to be God, would you accept it? Would you be able to toss your previous beliefs aside and accept the fact that there would be a God in your life?

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Kyouzou
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Did anyone else notice that only Loco's graph Satan killed -10 people?

One would argue those graphs by saying, "God created us, he's well within his rights to destroy us."

314d1
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Did anyone else notice that only Loco's graph Satan killed -10 people?

One would argue those graphs by saying, "God created us, he's well within his rights to destroy us."


Ten people, Job's family, and that may have even been Yahweh.

But wait, by that logic, you can kill your own children, because you made them, correct?
master565
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Did anyone else notice that only Loco's graph Satan killed -10 people?


It's a 3D graph, it just looks like that due to perspective.
MageGrayWolf
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Did anyone else notice that only Loco's graph Satan killed -10 people?


Both graphs have 10 people marked on Satan's killings. Though those 10 were with approval from God.
TheAtheist
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I would accept that he's real but I would rebel against him though. The things he stands for are not entirely good i.e. slavery, suppression of free will, honorary ****, etc...

Kasic
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if God literally appeared out of the sky to all of the world to see and proclaimed him/her/itself to be God,


If it came from apparently no where, then I'd certainly be far more open to the idea of it. I would first probably ask other people if they see/heard it. Then of course there's the problem of which, if any, religion is right...

Would you be able to toss your previous beliefs aside and accept the fact that there would be a God in your life?


I would probably definitely accept that there is indeed a God or supernatural force out there. However, if it is the same god as described in the religious texts, i'd seriously want to have a talk to him about it. As it stands, the God as illustrated in the Bible is just flawed, murderous, cruel, and apparently has very low self esteem and needs to be prayed to and have specific rituals done just to appease his ego.

So, long story short, yes, I'd most likely accept that there is a God but that does not necessarily mean I would follow him.
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I would accept that he's real but I would rebel against him though. The things he stands for are not entirely good i.e. slavery, suppression of free will, honorary ****, etc...


can't believe I have to say this again. god doesn't permit those things. humans accept them and then slap it under religious belief to justify it. look at when henry the 8th made his own church to justify divorce.
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Yes I would accept that God existed. Now would I worship said God or be against this God is another matter.

^this. I don't think I'd worship that god, the very first thing I'd do is have a loooooong and serious discussion with it. Then I'd see how it goes on from there.
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yes i would accept that he/she/it is real but at the moment it isn't proved so i don't beleave it jet but if it would happen i would beleve in him/her/it.

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One would argue those graphs by saying, "God created us, he's well within his rights to destroy us."

Are you supporting this argument or simply pointing it out as a possible one?

In either case. Nope, we have the right to live, and nothing changes that unless by the virtue of our own actions. That would include unjust murder, and etc, not the definition of "God".

God has already failed in "nurturing" us, when you consider that once you have a child it's your responsibility to raise him / her, unless there are circumstances that change that (such as having an unstable income, and you instead go with adoption, which even then you have not properly followed your responsibility).
You've not the right to take a life, one of the main reasons I'm against abortion. There are so many contraceptives that can prevent pregnancy that the idea of accidentally having a child is pretty much absurd.
I'm NOT saying abortion before a specific time is killing an innocent, I'm just saying that it doesn't make real sense.

I know I'm off topic, but I'd like someone to clarify at which point does a fetus become "living"?

I would accept that he's real but I would rebel against him though. The things he stands for are not entirely good i.e. slavery, suppression of free will, honorary ****, etc...

I think you would change your alias as well

can't believe I have to say this again. god doesn't permit those things. humans accept them and then slap it under religious belief to justify it. look at when henry the 8th made his own church to justify divorce.

I just used this in another thread. God made NO effort to clarify that those actions were not following him. Being a wise and perfect being, he really should've.

don't think I'd worship that god, the very first thing I'd do is have a loooooong and serious discussion with it. Then I'd see how it goes on from there.

I would never worship a God if it were real. Why would I? Moral justification for everything you do is the single most important thing - ever. If I am on par with his moral standards (which given his actions in the Bible, or other religious texts, I am in some cases well above that standard) then he is not better than me in any truely meaningful way.

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Kasic
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god doesn't permit those things.


According to the bible, not only does he allow it, he supports and endorses those things. So...
Highfire
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According to the bible, not only does he allow it, he supports and endorses those things. So...

A quote in full context if you can afford to, please

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Kasic
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I don't really feel like it, i've linked them before and what not, just read leviticus, those are all in there at one point or another. The only thing perhaps that God doesn't support from that list he gave is ****, but, at most all that happens is it seems to be the women's fault.

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I feel that God is not a being or a creator, but a soul that walks through the world watching us, he is represented by everything living.

MageGrayWolf
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I feel that God is not a being or a creator, but a soul that walks through the world watching us, he is represented by everything living.


That kind of makes God sound a bit like a stalker. What is your definition of a soul?
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