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thepunisher93
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As you know things have been going for muslims for last decade.All the discrimination and hatred they have been facing.
Led to the rise of the term Islamophobia.
What r ur thoughts on it.

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nichodemus
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This is where difference of point of veiws becomes apparent cuz for lineage is just name.For us it is not just a name.Lineage comes important in case of inheritence.


It's the same for the Chinese here; it doesn't matter to me since I rank freedom and individual rights over such traditions. There's no way I can convince you on the matter; so now back to Sharia Law.
Bladerunner679
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If the Western world is intolerant.........then why does the rest of the world want to move to there???


cuz we have better food and movies, but that's beside the point.

in political terms, we have trial by jury, opportunities here aren't determined by your lineage, and (thanks to us now having a black president) we are now more tolerant than ever. I made a joke out of the last part, but only a small percentage of the western world (the part that is already alienated) is intolerant.

I mean, america was called "the land of opportunity" for a reason.
thepunisher93
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"muslims hate the western world because they are intolerant, and war mongering."
If the Western world is intolerant.........then why does the rest of the world want to move to there???

Says who?
and that migration era (from muslim countries to west) ended in early 90's(this does not mean that nomore muslims are going towards west, but just volume has decreased)
nichodemus
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I mean, america was called "the land of opportunity" for a reason.


Well you did have the Hate-All-Blacks spell...glad that cleared up. Yes there are still intolerant nincompoops around, but overall, much more accepting.
Bladerunner679
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Well you did have the Hate-All-Blacks spell...glad that cleared up. Yes there are still intolerant nincompoops around, but overall, much more accepting.


it's true we did, which is why many americans are practicing political correctness in hopes of displacing that intolerance.
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On a semi-related topic to the current discussion - what do people think about the whole petrol-bombing of a French magazine office after it printed an issue saying that the Prophet Muhammad was the editor in chief for the week?

Source 1 and Source 2

Apparently the newspaper/magazine was meant as 'satire' but perhaps they should have been more considerate. Still - the retribution was seriously disproportionate.

thepunisher93
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As it is written in the article they printed a cartoon.

Avorne
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That still doesn't give anyone any right whatsoever to commit arson - someone could have been seriously injured or killed over some cartoon.

thepunisher93
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That was not "just some cartoon".You people will have to learn to respect other religion.

Avorne
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And 'you people' (I like how you group us all together so I'm going to do it to you too) will have to learn to put up with things that upset you and that 'you' can't just go around setting fire to things that make you angry.

thepunisher93
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We dont disrespect other religions its a sin as per our religion and we expect to get same respect but if someone does is not give us that then we have every right to teach them a lesson.(As far as I think anyone who tries this thing is stupid and does not learn lesson frm history.)

Avorne
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And burning down buildings is your idea of proportionate retribution? You could protest, write lots of complaints, make your voices heard in a legal manner - illegal actions such as this only further the (stupid) ideas that all muslims are violent and uncivilized people.

Bladerunner679
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And 'you people' (I like how you group us all together so I'm going to do it to you too) will have to learn to put up with things that upset you and that 'you' can't just go around setting fire to things that make you angry.


as much as I dislike it, I agree with avorne on this one. christians, and jews have been insulted a lot over the past millenia, and we more or less put up with it. Islam has no right to attack something just because you perceive that same something didn't give you enough respect. modern day political correctness allows us, instead of acts of violence and vengeance, to sue people for discrimination.

such acts of violence is not justified today, and no ammount of doctrine, bias, or offense that was taken from the disrespect will justify burning down a building that could've killed many, and injured way more than that cartoon ever could've.

We dont disrespect other religions its a sin as per our religion and we expect to get same respect but if someone does is not give us that then we have every right to teach them a lesson.(As far as I think anyone who tries this thing is stupid and does not learn lesson frm history.)


you didn't factor in how the world is unfair. when I say this, I really mean that nothing ever goes the way we want it. the fact that the extremists of your religion demand such respect even after doing such a harsh act just appals me.
thepunisher93
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What legal manner? we go to court, they say we cant put a ban on freedom of speech.America is far better than europe in this case cuz at least they didnt let terry jones to burn quran.
P.S:- I dont know who said that but he said right that There is no thing like logic when it comes to religion.
(which means that when you will play with peoples religouse feelings dont expect that their reaction will b logical.

thepunisher93
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the fact that the extremists of your religion demand such respect even after doing such a harsh act just appals me.

Its not just extremists who demand respect moderate muslims demand it too.
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