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thepunisher93
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As you know things have been going for muslims for last decade.All the discrimination and hatred they have been facing.
Led to the rise of the term Islamophobia.
What r ur thoughts on it.

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Avorne
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Do you ever wonder why so many people are seen to be islamophobic? Partly it's down to what their parents pass on in terms of beliefs but it's also down to what they see and perceive of muslims. I'm lucky enough to know a lot of people who are muslims and so I know that the vast majority are moderate and nice people but, when people don't have the experience that I do and when they rely upon what they see and hear on the news or on the internet, is it any surprise that they're scared to some extent? When people like you don't condemn the actions of extremists in your religion, it's only to your detriment because you're furthering and reinforcing the image that muslims support terrorism.

thepunisher93
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Make a law against religious insult and i will condemn if anyone do something like this again

Avorne
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How would you define 'religious insult' though? I mean, seriously, everyone has different opinions about what's insulting and what isn't insulting and to stop it all you'd be pretty much destroying any concept of Freedom of Speech - and Freedom of Speech is much more important than some people having hurt feelings.

thepunisher93
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Okay but then dont complain when someone gets killed on such a matter

Avorne
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THERE ARE LEGAL MEANS OF FIGHTING BACK, LEGAL MEANS OF MAKING YOUR VOICE HEARD, VIOLENCE ONLY ALIENATES ISLAM AND MUSLIMS IN THE EYES OF THE REST OF THE WORLD!

thepunisher93
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They tried legal means but to no avail.
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Avorne
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The cartoons fall under freedom of speech/publication and, as distasteful as they are, there's nothing that could be done about them without raising an uproar about rights and liberties being taken away. Muslims could choose to boycott the newspapers and magazines that publish such photos and eventually they may go bust. But kicking up a fuss and attacking/burning things only aggravates both sides more and creates greater tension between people.

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If someone insults your religion, the only logical reaction would be to show and explain them why they are wrong. It would make people understand better what they're talking about so they won't insult it again. Getting offended without explaining what was wrong or overreact will only make their idea of Islam worse.

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If someone insults your religion, the only logical reaction would be to show and explain them why they are wrong. It would make people understand better what they're talking about so they won't insult it again. Getting offended without explaining what was wrong or overreact will only make their idea of Islam worse.


that is what we are trying to explain to him, but the fact is he was raised in a way that is ambivalent to the ones who strike fear in the western world. this ambivalence is easily misinterpreted (I know it is, because my extremely right-wing parents have) into thinking you support such harsh acts even though you may not.

if muslim is to survive in the modern day, it is going to have to make a few changes. it will have to remove whatever allows such harsh punishment in the sharia law, and all of those retribution clauses that says to defend the religion, even if it means fighting freedom of speech and press.
xfirealchemistx
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Well yes...now also consider the thousands, no millions of ''Patriotic'' Americans who fully supported the War on Terror that Bush spun out of proportion.


I think people supported the War even though it was complete lies was because they were afraid. Completely afraid. Who wouldn't be if you were attacked without warning or knowledge. Everyone was afraid and wanted someone to blame.
Bladerunner679
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I think people supported the War even though it was complete lies was because they were afraid. Completely afraid. Who wouldn't be if you were attacked without warning or knowledge. Everyone was afraid and wanted someone to blame.


trying to remember which page that was so I may know when you got bored and started posting without reading it all.

of course we wanted something to blame, and lookey lookey, Osama was muslim. that meant we could all get back on that dusty old hate bandwagon that we got on for communism, and abandoned it when that crisis ended.

soon, america was all aflame with blind nationalism and muslim intolerance, the same way a 14 year old is aflame with all those hormones raging around in him.

now, we have settled down a little, but there is still that minority of americans who are nationalistic, intolerant nut-jobs.
thebluerabbit
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There is no thing like logic when it comes to religion.
(which means that when you will play with peoples religouse feelings dont expect that their reaction will b logical.


so your proving it by hurting other people? that statement is actually true for most people. religions WILL NEVER make sense and that is obvious and that comes from a religios person. you cant expect a person who fully relies on logic to not think that what you believe in is stupid. and you know what? thats ok.

i know its annoying when people laugh at your religion, but everyone get that and you have to get over that. again, i remember the anger lessons in kindergarden. if you let words drive you insane your just proving that the islam is in fact dangerous and you cant blame other people for being afraid of muslims. im also sure that other muslims would agree and think that those people make a bad name for them.

the fact that you find something important doesnt mean that you can do whatever you want when someone disrespects it. i LOVE pokemon, but you wont see me killing other people who disrespect it. and if your going to say that it is different because it is not a belief then ok.

i can simply believe in the most stupid thing like a giant bunny. i could believe in the most stupid things but i have no right to hurt anyone who disrespect it. this world isnt perfect and people just dont respect other people, im sure you can see that. if anyone would kill someone who disprespects something they believe in or something they love we wouldnt last.

and you cant make a rule against insulting a religion. that would be like a rule of insulting someones physical appearance. the beliefs and opinions change and you cant have a rule that is so subjective.

the only thing that would perfectly prevent it would be to turn us into robots with no feelings. some people are more sensitive while others arent. and some people are more bold while others arent and you cant make a rule that kills that difference.

id say the problem is that "you" (:3) have to control yourself better and not give your religion as an excuse for "your" weakness. if id punch every person in my class for saying something bad about that brick on the floor of course they would be afraid of me.
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but if you can choose what you want, believe in what you want, wouldn't that be an insult to the 1 that created you? you know he went to the trouble of making you and you just ditch him like a broken sword. now isnt that wrong?

thebluerabbit
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its not wrong if he doesnt tell you you exist. you cant know what is the truth if no one tells you what it is. and when you make a bad decision because you dont know the truth it is not your fault.

xfirealchemistx
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trying to remember which page that was so I may know when you got bored and started posting without reading it all.


What the heck are you talking about? I referred to something s/he said in particular and that's what I wanted to respond to. Now if you have a problem with that so be it. Get your head out your bum and stop telling people what they did or didn't read.
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