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thepunisher93
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As you know things have been going for muslims for last decade.All the discrimination and hatred they have been facing.
Led to the rise of the term Islamophobia.
What r ur thoughts on it.

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Kasic
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If you guys didn't realise it, the discussion is getting out of hand and away from the original topic.


No it's not, we're in pretty deep as to why there is Islamophobia in the world, one reason is what we've been talking about for the last like 10 pages, muslims kill people over trivial things if they insult their religion.
thebluerabbit
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you keep saying they cant complain if they get killed. i will keep saying you cant complain that people fear you for that.

any solution for that? grow up and realise that words are nothing more then words. ignore and walk away. as i said, a person can respect something all he want. its still wrong to kill those who insult it.

and you didnt respond to what i said about their law about cows. so yes... no one would slay a cow there. but that law does not exists in other places. and none of them ever killed someone in that place.

i could be very racist and tell you that all muslims should leave every country that is not muslim so they can live in peace but i obviously dont believe in that. still, if you want to live in a certain place you have to follow its rules or else you get punished. no sane person will insult the islam in an arab country (and i doubt that a person who hates the islam or a person who is islamophobic will ever visit an arab country). why? because he knows what will happen to him there.

i can decide that anyone who enters my house has to do something insane like licking the walls before entering a room. its my house and im "allowed" to kill anyone who will disobey that rule. but i think its obvious that people will eventually fear and hate me for doing that.

so dont be surprised that islam is so feared and even hated. you can respect something but you have to understand that others dont and have alittle bit of control over your emotions (or ego) and just let it go

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evry human has to shield himself from things they do not agree whit or even respect them. you can't kill evry1 that disagrees whit you or disobey you. you will need to let those things go. that is called free speech.
evry1 can say what they want. and if you disagree then you can reply to them starting a discussion or let it slide.
killing them is not a option.

thepunisher93
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Well you will have to learn self censorship.
Their is no harm in criticizing Islam.
But if you will insult holy prophet with the sole purpose of making muslims angry than dont complain when they react

Kasic
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Well you will have to learn self censorship.
Their is no harm in criticizing Islam.
But if you will insult holy prophet with the sole purpose of making muslims angry than dont complain when they react


Now you're just repeating yourself.

Let me also do the same...

Just because someone insults you does NOT give you the right to harm them. EVEN IF they intend to make you angry with their words, you do NOT have the right to kill them.
thepunisher93
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Muslims are a considerable minority in Europe (they comprise 6% of total population).
You will have recognize it as a problem and will have to make laws about it.You make law about it and than someone kills, you can complaint.
If you don't recognize it as a problem this only shows your intolerence towards minorities.

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We will never censor our freedom of speech to preserve the feelings of some religious nutjobs - it's the desire to preserve our freedom of speech and prove that we won't be bullied by extremists that led to things like Draw Muhammad day.

Kasic
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You will have recognize it as a problem and will have to make laws about it.You make law about it and than someone kills, you can complaint.


I agree people shouldn't go out and just try to piss others off, but people do. There shouldn't be a law against it, as that would violate free speech. The government should not have control over what we say.

They simply insult you and do no physical harm. You can tell them to leave, or leave yourself, ignore them, or show them what an intolerant ******* they are. KILLING them is not right and is way overreacting.

If you don't recognize it as a problem this only shows your intolerence towards minorities.


You seem to have it stuck in your head that muslims are the only people in the world who people talk bad about and don't get punished.
thepunisher93
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We will never censor our freedom of speech to preserve the feelings of some religious nutjobs - it's the desire to preserve our freedom of speech and prove that we won't be bullied by extremists that led to things like Draw Muhammad day.

Well you wont back down neither will us, it will only result in more violence.
Kasic
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Well you wont back down neither will us, it will only result in more violence.


Here's the problem. There shouldn't be violence AT ALL. You cannot justify killing people simply because they insult you.
Avorne
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Well you wont back down neither will us, it will only result in more violence.


If some people didn't react so strongly to things that they found offensive then other people wouldn't take advantage of that and do more offensive things - if some muslims would stop being violent because of insults or depictions of their prophet then other people wouldn't draw more pictures of your prophet and publish offensive things.
partydevil
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i think this video is valid here. punisher check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOXqSBAPFLI

thebluerabbit
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lol what does it matter if they are a minority in europe. there is no rule against insulting christianity is there? the fact that the minority doesnt get special treatment doesnt mean its unfair.

there is no rule against insulting judaism even in israel. if YOU need a rule like that then all you can do is move to an arab country. but if you want to live in a different place you have to respect their rules.

any other person who would kill someone else for in****ing his religion will get punished. they treat you the same way they treat others in rules. the fact that individual people dont is their stupidity. but killing a person because he is stupid makes you more stupid AND unable to control yourself which will result in people hating you.

everytime we say something you cant respond to you just say that the only thing that can be done is violence. thats not true, you can stop complaining like little children or move out from that "unfair" country. killing wont help because you get punished anyway.

and if your so eager to give up and just go on war for such a pointless subject then that sais alot about your religion ONCE AGAIN and will just make people direspet you more.

you cant expect people to respect your religion when you show them such an ugly side of it

thepunisher93
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Christians dont get as offended as muslims now if the muslims if muslims get this much offended than why shouldn't laws b made about it?

Avorne
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Christians dont get as offended as muslims now if the muslims if muslims get this much offended than why shouldn't laws b made about it?


But you see, Christians have just as much right as Muslims to get offended about things that they find insulting, yet not nearly as many of them do. Muslims should be more like Christians and learn to live with things they don't like.
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