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SquirrelMaster0282
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why do you guys question the bible when you hardly have an idea what its about i mean i doubt any of you guys have actually read the bible let alone have room to talk against it.

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Kasic
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why do you guys question the bible when you hardly have an idea what its about i mean i doubt any of you guys have actually read the bible let alone have room to talk against it.


I know full well what it's about and I have read it (Not recently, 8 years ago) and I have plenty of room and reason to talk against it.

On a seperate note, this thread could also have just been asked the same question in Christianity FTW. I wonder why they haven't stickied that thread yet *COUGH*
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why do you guys question the bible when you hardly have an idea what its about i mean i doubt any of you guys have actually read the bible let alone have room to talk against it.

This is a hugely regurgitated argument that bares no purpose but for people to request - proving that it is correct. Biblical texts do not stand as evidence nor proof as to the solidification of God being real.

I've not read the Bible but I need not to. I and others have been around this loop a few (many?) times before. Kasic is one of them

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heres what im wondering: many atheists actually just dont know if there is a God or not, so if there is (which there is) and they believe in Him they have eternal life and everything is good. If there is not a God (which there is) it wouldn't hurt to try and believe anyway

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why do you guys question the bible when you hardly have an idea what its about i mean i doubt any of you guys have actually read the bible let alone have room to talk against it.


Yes I have read the Bible, I continue to read it in other versions through a comparative site and have been slowly working on learning the Hebrew and Greek roots of it. In fact there are atheists who are atheists from reading and studying the Bible. In fact there have been studies done showing atheists on average have a better understanding of religious text then theists.
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If there is not a God (which there is) it wouldn't hurt to try and believe anyway


There was an argument against this, although I don't remember what is is. Although I can say that beliving in a God is not a choice. Its like beliving in santa. You can't choose to belive in santa.
ShinyCowBeast
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there have been studies done showing atheists on average have a better understanding of religious text then theists.

i am going to guess that these studies were done by atheists which would mean that the studies were hugely biased. also i dont think it can be proven that atheists have a better understanding of the bible because that is an opinion.

Atheists usually only look at the parts of the bible they want to see
MageGrayWolf
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heres what im wondering: many atheists actually just dont know if there is a God or not, so if there is (which there is) and they believe in Him they have eternal life and everything is good. If there is not a God (which there is) it wouldn't hurt to try and believe anyway


pascal's wager again? If there was a God (which there is no evidence for) that God (no evidence) would be able to see I was just faking it and didn't actually believe as this God had not provided me with what is required for me to believe (EVIDENCE **** IT!). I will not accept a claim with nothing supporting it and all the Bible is, are claims that need to first be supported.
ShinyCowBeast
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Although I can say that beliving in a God is not a choice

you can choose to believe in God because once you choose to believe, God will help you truly believe

If there was a God (which there is no evidence for) that God (no evidence) would be able to see I was just faking it

as i just said if you actually choose to try to believe God would help you believe
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The whole "God will help you believe in Him" argument basically boils down to you fooling yourself into believing and then giving the credit for you basically overriding your common sense to your newfound faith in God.

ShinyCowBeast
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The whole "God will help you believe in Him" argument basically boils down to you fooling yourself into believing and then giving the credit for you basically overriding your common sense to your newfound faith in God.

if God helps you by letting you "fool yourself" into believing, then so be it. as i said what is the point of not believing? this is common sense
dair5
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Well thats like saying whats the point of not beliving in santa. Also, some have tried beliving and they can't seem to convince themselves there really is a god. Like you can convince yourself santa is real, but others can't. Not everyone can.

Kasic
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Atheists usually only look at the parts of the bible they want to see


Lol, this can go both ways for anything.

if God helps you by letting you "fool yourself" into believing, then so be it. as i said what is the point of not believing? this is common sense


Sigh. What is the point in not believing in Santa? What is the point in not believing that unicorns and fairies are real? Simply, one is the truth, and one is not.
ShinyCowBeast
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Sigh. What is the point in not believing in Santa? What is the point in not believing that unicorns and fairies are real? Simply, one is the truth, and one is not.

unicorns and fairies are a lot dirrerent than God. there is no heaven or hell when you are dealing with such things.

Lol, this can go both ways for anything.

I will not lie. this can go both ways. more often than not, though, christians try to understand all off the Bible because it is a very important part of their life. atheists do not try to understand parts they dont like because it is not as important to them
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i am going to guess that these studies were done by atheists which would mean that the studies were hugely biased. also i dont think it can be proven that atheists have a better understanding of the bible because that is an opinion.


All they did was ask a bunch of people a bunch of questions on what the Bible and other religious text say. Atheists on average answer more accurately then any other group. It was from a Pew research Center survey. On average of general religious knowledge of 32 questions atheists scored the highest answering an average of 20.9 questions. On questions of Christianity specifically they averaged in at third (answering 6.7 out of 12 questions) behind Mormons and white evangelicals (answering an average of 7.9 and 7.3 respectively). But in world religion scored just under Jews and were top in knowledge of religion in public life.
http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx

Atheists usually only look at the parts of the bible they want to see


I find it's usually the theist who cherry picks ignoring contradictory information in the Bible and clearly morally reprehensible parts.
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what is the point of not believing?


not wasting your brain whit unproven non-sense.

beside it's not a choise to believe in god or not.
even if i wanted to believe. i know i can't because of all the info i know that is contradicting whit the story of the bible.
and since there is no proof for the bible and there is proof for the other info. i put my money on the other info and not believe in god.
i will be unable to forget this info and so i will never be able believe in god.
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