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sensanaty
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I apologize if it's in the wrong section, wasn't 100% sure where to put it.

Anyways, what are your opinions on premarital sex? (and please, if you're christian, don't base your opinion on what 'God said', Your personal opinion would be most thankful)

I think it's perfectly fine for 14+ year olds to have sex, but only if they do it smartly. If my son/daughter came to me and said 'Dad would you mind if I had sex?' I'd probably say something between the lines of being smart and using contraceptives. I myself lost my virginity at age 16, it's really not a big deal, just be smart about it, and avoid children (unless financially and mentally prepared for a child) and especially STD's.

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nichodemus
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That's an excellent point, besides I think most people are intelligent enough to realize that pornography is just as real as WWE.


I wouldn't count on that actually....
Kyouzou
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Jester

Allow me my idle dreams for the intelligence of my peers. I get the feeling that might help explain the extremely low self esteem amongst teens.

MageGrayWolf
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My point...erm didn't encapsulate child porn because even having the stuff means a child was abused.


Not necessarily, there are artificially generated images such as drawings and cgi. I do agree using real kids to produce such material is abuse.

Rather it was that watching porn transfers your desires into just watching it until you're old enough and mature enough to actually do it. But you got the gist of it.


Can't say I agree here. Any increased desire to watch it is likely the result of the high hormonal levels in teenagers coupled with the newness of both the feelings and imagery. If the persona has parents who treat it as some sort of taboo this could also increase desire to watch it.
nichodemus
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Can't say I agree here. Any increased desire to watch it is likely the result of the high hormonal levels in teenagers coupled with the newness of both the feelings and imagery. If the persona has parents who treat it as some sort of taboo this could also increase desire to watch it.


Well...yes that's why they watch porn. Which is much better than releasing pent up hormones into the actual act.
LilystarofFlameclan1
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isnt porn illegal?
sex is a better idea to me.

zakyman
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isnt porn illegal?


Only if you are underaged.
MageGrayWolf
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isnt porn illegal?


No it's not illegal, unless your referring to child porn which is.
Kyouzou
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Sex can be illegal too, it's always a question of when and where, there are countries yes, where pornography is illegal, and the production, sale, and possession of it is banned, however that doesn't not apply in any of the European or American countries that I am aware of, although depending on how you see the Vatican, I think that could qualify.

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well, I honestly think that this is a crazy topic for these forums. However, I do believe that Porn should be illegal. It just is a thing abused by so many pervs. As far as I am concerned, it could scar a child for life if people are not smart about it. It even could disgust a teenager that has not yet started to learn about biological reproduction. If it does not become illegal, I at least think that porn should be exclusive to members of certain groups.

Also, I do not necessarily support, or go against premarital sex. I think that if you and your partner are ready for it, then go for it. But, you need to be very careful. Teenage years are very shaky relationship-wise. My two-sense is that you and your partner should be in love together. Lots of preparation is very helpful. If you can get vaxinated for any STD, Get that shot before you do it. As long as the couple is in love, and are careful, it does not bother me.

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Not necessarily, there are artificially generated images such as drawings and cgi. I do agree using real kids to produce such material is abuse.
Well the US Supreme Court ruled that even if the children are drawn and are shown in a sexually explicit manner one can be put in jail for viewing it. So technically drawn images is considered abuse also.
MageGrayWolf
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As far as I am concerned, it could scar a child for life if people are not smart about it.


In what way?


It even could disgust a teenager that has not yet started to learn about biological reproduction.


A kid would have had to live a rather sheltered life to not yet have started to learn about biological reproduction by this point.

If it does not become illegal, I at least think that porn should be exclusive to members of certain groups.


Mean like how they say "mature audience only", "18 only"?

Well the US Supreme Court ruled that even if the children are drawn and are shown in a sexually explicit manner one can be put in jail for viewing it. So technically drawn images is considered abuse also.


Yes I'm aware of this, whoever I have to wonder who is being abused?
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A kid would have had to live a rather sheltered life to not yet have started to learn about biological reproduction by this point.


I was extremely sheltered and by age 6 I had put two and two together. I mean, they even call socket plugs "Male" and "Female." I didn't know (quite) yet how that made a baby exactly, or why people wanted to do it, but I certainly knew what it was, even if I didn't know the word for it.

So technically drawn images is considered abuse also.


And how does that work?
KMRaider
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It just is a thing abused by so many pervs. As far as I am concerned, it could scar a child for life if people are not smart about it. It even could disgust a teenager that has not yet started to learn about biological reproduction. If it does not become illegal, I at least think that porn should be exclusive to members of certain groups.


Though I don't necessarily agree that those things could happen, that's why porn is only for a mature audience over the age of 18 (or 21 in some cases) who are all members of a certain group known as adulthood.
And that porn is only for &quotervs" and always "abused" is a bit of an ignorant view. If you look at the statistics on this site and compare it to your statement, a good portion of people must be &quotervs." I'm going to let you draw your own conclusions, but keep that in mind.
nichodemus
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And that porn is only for &quotervs" and always "abused" is a bit of an ignorant view. If you look at the statistics on this site and compare it to your statement, a good portion of people must be &quotervs." I'm going to let you draw your own conclusions, but keep that in mind.


Such a holier than thou and protective attitude only serves to repel and disgust one from what is just a natural biological act.
AgathaB
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If you look at the statistics on this site


Really? You're linking to a site that says this:

Women, far more than men, are likely to act out their behaviors in real life, such as having multiple partners, casual sex, or affairs.


Basically, calling all of us skanks.

Besides, such a statement is in and of itself absurd, because as far as I know, studies have not shown anything conclusive yet, apart from confirming my belief that the human race just wasn't meant for monogamy. But that's a discussion for another day.

Excepting that extremely stupid sentence, I agree with your general sentiment. Porn is not something only pervs watch, hell, I watch porn too! As do all of my friends. As long as it's consensual, I have no problem with porn, or sex for that matter, at all.

On the topic of drawn child pornography, I agree with Nichodemus. (Which seems to be a common thread lately.) It is much less likely that the average Joe will act on his/her desires IRL if they have an outlet somewhere else. The point being that we cannot root out this deviant behaviour completely, so it's better if there's some sort of outlet for these people. And the ones who do take the next step and kidnap a child, well, they were gonna do it anyway. There's a lot more people out there who find children stimulating, but most are aware of the social and moral repercussions and avoid doing anything about it. It's this kind of people I'm talking about when I say that drawn child pornography can help.

And now I feel dirty just talking about it. Ugh.

And why is it that when talking about premarital sex, it always ends up being about teenagers? That's not only premarital, that's minors we're talking about mostly.
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