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ova9000
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I have just watched the news and greece might be declaring war. you know what this means. France and Germany would go to war with italy and greece and it would be world war ll all over again. tell me you thoughts and opinions and feel free to express them

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partydevil
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Germany does not have nukes


however germany is partisepating in NATO's Nuclear sharing programe. germany has lots of nuclear weapons that are made in the usa. also is germany making components for those weapons

You need to arm the bomb before it can actually explode.

that doesn't matter anymore if it crashes into the ground.
it's not like if you don't arm it, then there is no nuclear thread.
no matter how strong it is. it will be flat when it hits the ground.
nichodemus
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however germany is partisepating in NATO's Nuclear sharing programe. germany has lots of nuclear weapons that are made in the usa. also is germany making components for those weapons


Yes I know that however the bombs are under the jurisdiction of the USA, under NATO treaties. Also, Germany is bound by treaties signed before the reunification to not station any nuclear weapon in Eastern Germany.

that doesn't matter anymore if it crashes into the ground.
it's not like if you don't arm it, then there is no nuclear thread.
no matter how strong it is. it will be flat when it hits the ground.


Numerous safety designs in place for old atomic bombs; since those are the nuclear weapon types we were discussing.
partydevil
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Yes I know that however the bombs are under the jurisdiction of the USA, under NATO treaties. Also, Germany is bound by treaties signed before the reunification to not station any nuclear weapon in Eastern Germany.


that doesn't matter in time of ww3 IF germany and usa are standing against eachother =) it's hypothetic as this whole thread is.
so IF germany wants wrong whit it. then they are able to.

safety designs

i'm not good in technical stuff. only thing i can inmagion when that type of bomb falls down is a big BOOM!! but if you say not, then it be.
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that doesn't matter in time of ww3 IF germany and usa are standing against eachother =) it's hypothetic as this whole thread is.
so IF germany wants wrong whit it. then they are able to.


It's as hypothetical as the Martians invading tomorrow with pink unicorns; A hypothesis should still have a semblance of credibility. For instance, Germany will never dare use the nukes on it's own initiative nor will the rest of NATO fully trust it to handle them by itself after the two World Wars.

i'm not good in technical stuff. only thing i can inmagion when that type of bomb falls down is a big BOOM!! but if you say not, then it be.


The earlier nuclear designs were more dangerous; since then designs have been in place for such accidental occurrences.
partydevil
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Germany will never dare use the nukes on it's own initiative


how can you be so sure when the world has to last atleast a few more thoushed year if not longer?

"Not so long ago, you know, we had a war.
What was it called?
WW2.
Ow right, the 1 that the GERMANS started."

you see where i'm going? they did it befor. if they want to they can. just like any other country whit nukes can.
something like this sure wont happen any time soon. (soon as in the next few 100 year) but only cookie monster knows what will happen in the future. and he is to busy eating cookies.
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how can you be so sure when the world has to last atleast a few more thoushed year if not longer?

"Not so long ago, you know, we had a war.
What was it called?
WW2.
Ow right, the 1 that the GERMANS started."


Because a)They're economy is too inter tied with the world's to attempt any such foolish thing. b) The concept of nuclear deterrence,France and Britain have nukes too. c) The nukes belong to the USA which has stationed it's own forces in Germany.
partydevil
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A it wont be forever. nothing last forever.
B and about 12 more that are in the same program indeed.
c no, NATO forces are stationed at the nukes. and those are from the country where the bombs are. it's a program based on trust. thats why the thread that any of those countrys are doing such thing any time soon is almost 0. however they have the abilty to use it. regard of all the political signatures.

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it's a program based on trust.


You can't afford trust when you're dealing with weapons of mass destruction. Shall I repeat that again? Mass Destruction.

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This is starting to piss me off, it's the 5th time it cut my reply.

how can you be so sure...


If a country with maybe 100 nuclear warheads bombed the US, which have thousands of them, they can soon expect the end of their entire country. After all, they are weapons of Mass destruction


Sorry for the double posting
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A it wont be forever. nothing last forever.


Nothing is known in the distant future; my point was directed towards a more predictable time; in the short run.

B and about 12 more that are in the same program indeed.


Correction, the US has deployed it's B61 bombs in Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey and the United Kingdom.

In fact there's quite an uproar over nukes in Germany with many Germans wanting to remove them.
partydevil
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it's a program of trust because they don't put them in just any country. ofcours NOT ONLY trust also 1st line of defence and attack in eurasia.

many Germans wanting to remove them.

all nukes and such should be removed/destroyed.
partydevil
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btw your forgetting a few. i i can remember right now for example is denmark.

nichodemus
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all nukes and such should be removed/destroyed.


My point was raised to counter your argument that Germany currently has the stomach to use nukes.

btw your forgetting a few. i i can remember right now for example is denmark.


You need to check your sources. The Danes are virulently against having any nukes on their territories.

And no, I'm correct, counting out the UK which already has it's own nuclear weapons.
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it's a program of trust because they don't put them in just any country. ofcours NOT ONLY trust also 1st line of defence and attack in eurasia.


It is a program of trust because the USA also has a huge say in the use of such weapons/
partydevil
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You need to check your sources


my bad my source was also counting the countrys that had weapons but have removed them.

It is a program of trust because the USA also has a huge say in the use of such weapons

but said countrys will not blindly follow what the usa say's they sure will think twice befor actual using the weapons.
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