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randumbness
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I was thinking about religion the other day and how in the bible it said something about god being all powerful creator of earth . Hypothetically speaking does that make god an alien due to the fact that it states somewhere in the bible that god is not of this world , and it seems to me that if the bible is 100% true hypothetically god could be considered an alien right? Plus another point to make even if its not very relevant is that the bible is considered to be a U.F.O. fanatics holy grail.
I was wondering what other people would think about this.

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dair5
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By the Christian view point he has been and is on earth through various ways. Also if you create the land then isn't it yours and that make it impossible for you to be an alien. Like if you command troops to take over a land. You don't have to step foot on it. They are your citizens, of your land.

nichodemus
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This answer will be more literal than what you sought after. Take it as a hypothesis and a fantastic musing, not as a serious thought though.

More relevant to your question is, that it depends how you define alien.

Alien

Adjective:

1. Owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign: alien residents.
2. Belonging to, characteristic of, or constituting another and very different place, society, or person; strange. See Synonyms at foreign.
3. Dissimilar, inconsistent, or opposed, as in nature:


If you go by the definitions then yes, maybe he is ''alien'' in nature, if you stretch the word's meaning.

sensanaty
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If you think by the logic that a specific species out there in the universe has the technology to create an entire planet and carve the ecosystem, I think many atheists would convert to believing in God.

This answer will be more literal than what you sought after.


Not necessarily
Legodude565
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God...? I dont mean to be stupid (And dont judge me for this) I honestly dont believe in Heaven and the other stuff...

nichodemus
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God...? I dont mean to be stupid (And dont judge me for this) I honestly dont believe in Heaven and the other stuff...


Sheesh, so do most of us here, but at least post something relevant.
sensanaty
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God...? I dont mean to be stupid (And dont judge me for this) I honestly dont believe in Heaven and the other stuff...


Welcome to the club
HahiHa
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God...? I dont mean to be stupid (And dont judge me for this) I honestly dont believe in Heaven and the other stuff...

This isn't stupid at all, but it doesn't really fit into this thread specifically, since I think it discusses the concept of a deity rather than it's existence.

As dair5 said, the bible states that god created earth and the whole world, in that way god cannot be alien to anything. Even less if considering god's supposed omnipresence.
On the other way, god created earth (and the whole world) but doesn't come from it; therefore he isn't a child of the earth. He actually is a child of noone and nothing, which, depending on how you mean 'alien', could be interpreted by saying he's alien to everything. Though I guess dair5's point is better.
Legodude565
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[quote]On the other way, god created earth...

Earth was created by science and other crap from space. Im not trying to start a fight...Im just saying.

sensanaty
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Earth was created by science and other crap from space. Im not trying to start a fight...Im just saying.


This makes my eyes bleed...

Please, unless you don't have proper material to propose to the conversation, just don't... Not trying to be harsh here, but this is really unpleasant to read, at least to my eyes.

On the other way, god created earth (and the whole world) but doesn't come from it; therefore he isn't a child of the earth.


I thought God was just there since.. Always?
HahiHa
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I thought God was just there since.. Always?

...which is the reason why he doesn't come from earth. Because he was there before. Right?

Oh, and in case someone else has issues... this discussion is hypothetical. Ok?
nichodemus
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On the other way, god created earth (and the whole world) but doesn't come from it; therefore he isn't a child of the earth. He actually is a child of noone and nothing, which, depending on how you mean 'alien', could be interpreted by saying he's alien to everything. Though I guess dair5's point is better.


Well, at least it's being alien to Earth. It seems to me an equally strong point as Dair's.

the bible states that god created earth and the whole world, in that way god cannot be alien to anything.


I would link the concept of ''alieness'' to one's origins. Yes He hypothetically created the Earth and what not, but the source of His coming into being is wholly unknown, hence Him as an alien.
partydevil
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i heared on tv a few year ago some1 saying that aliens are the new god.

"god was in history something that people "thought" (read knowed) that god was real and they couldn't wait for god to come back so humans could make contact whit them

today we have debunked god. and we replaced whit aliens.
something that we all (most) "know" they are out there somewhere. and we are hoping to make contact whit hem whitin our own lifes.
"
it's a prety intresting philosofie.

but back to topic: i don't believe in god, so it can't be a alien. because i do believe that aliens are real. (all life on earth = alien )

Carlytoon
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but back to topic: i don't believe in god, so it can't be a alien. because i do believe that aliens are real. (all life on earth = alien )


Haha, I think the same think
I dont believe in god so for me, no god = no alien god.

I cant understand how some people can believe that god creates the life when the true life starts with unicelular lifeforms and evolution and bla bla bla.
partydevil
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I cant understand how some people can believe that god creates the life when the true life starts with unicelular lifeforms and evolution and bla bla bla.


education.
thats why it's importend that the basics of sience are teached in lower/mid school. and that they teach evolution in biologie in highschool.

to bad that schools in history are orginal done by priests because they had the time for it. (no other job) so religion has always been teached. and the older teachers of today are people that growed up in religous schools.

i personaly give religions only 2 or 300 more year untill they all are realy small. (like voodoo now) the information we have from science spreads realy fast whit the help of i-net. it's just about time when it gets teached in schools and that newer generations will stop following religion because they are beter educated.
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In status of residence I don't see how something omnipresent could be regarded as alien in this sense. Being alien in this sense would mean God isn't naturally found in a given location.

As constituting something very different in a conceptualized manner God could be regarded as alien in this sense. With us "not being able to know Gods thoughts" and all that.

Compared to nature itself God would have to be regarded as alien, since he is regarded as not being natural but supernatural. This leaves God dissimilar to anything natural.

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