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Well a lot of people have been telling me evolution is real. They give me the most craziest surreal 'facts'. Has anyone discovered any fish with legs? Any humans with gills or fins? If you put all the pieces of a watch into you're pocket and shake it around for trillions of years, will it ever become a watch? Is there but one possibility? Or if you completely dismantle a chicken and a fish, and put it into a box, shaking it around for trillions of years. Will it ever become a fish with wings? or a chicken with fins? :l

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Reiki000
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and why not actualy?

when you win the lottery, then that will make a unplanned change on your bank accaunt. a positive change.

A busy businessman forgets his agenda on his desk. He comes back and sees that his agenda has changed. Would this guy be happy or not? And go on. That's what I meant.

And partdevil, could you ask these questions in Ask a Muslim? Because it will be off-topic.

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Masterforger
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A change in one's agenda is not a mutation, more a change. Mutations, generally, affect living things. And why keeps saying greetings after every post?

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Any other example? Because, if such mutations, that are detectable now, are on an higher level, or if this happens many times, then I can be satisfied with mutations. But if such things happen, just a few time, then it's something happening rarely


This guy i guess

Like i said though, this isn't really an example of evolution because
A) it's extremely rare
B) it's massive, evolutions mutations are usually tiny

Why is there no muslim child that already is "circumcised"?


Because you apparently don't understand that this isn't how evolution works.

Why did the evolution of the eye take so less time?


It didn't?

And how did complex organisms evolve?


From evolution over billions of years, and probably from a lot of smaller organisms coming together and finding it's more beneficial to work as one.
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Reki, maybe this article will help.

This describe mutations.

It should also answer your question on circumcision.

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It would appear, my fellow Darwinists, that Reiki000 is just another MacFan1. Only smarter, but more prone to straying off topic.

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A busy businessman forgets his agenda on his desk. He comes back and sees that his agenda has changed. Would this guy be happy or not? And go on. That's what I meant.


You can't give an example and say "this means unplanned change is always bad". I'll give you an example of when unplanned change is good.

A man is going on a plane today. He arrives late to the airport and finds out that he's been booted from the flight due to overbooking. The finds out later that the plane he was supposed to be on has crashed and everyone on the plane died.
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From evolution over billions of years, and probably from a lot of smaller organisms coming together and finding it's more beneficial to work as one.

So, you think that multicellular organisms actually come from conglomerates of many unicellulars... ?
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A busy businessman forgets his agenda on his desk. He comes back and sees that his agenda has changed. Would this guy be happy or not? And go on. That's what I meant.


i don't understand what you mean.

ofcours there are bad unplanned mutations. but why should that be a reason for the not existing of good unplanned mutations?

see the lottery as that 1 in a billion chance of getting a good mutation instead of a bad mutation. when you win it you will get the positive effect from it.
and whit this positive mutation you climb up in the food chain. (survival of the fittest)
or translated back to money and closer to ourself... more money on your bank account will let you climb up in social connections, and get more respect from society.
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A change in one's agenda is not a mutation, more a change

Mutation is something that happens random right? This, change in the agenda has happend random by someone.

Mutations, generally, affect living things.

It was just an example.

And why keeps saying greetings after every post?

lol. because I'm used to say greetings after every post.

This guy i guess

But his mutation was not positive. He could only eat "things" that are not usefull for him. As it is been said, he become sick of banana and eggs.

Like i said though, this isn't really an example of evolution because
A) it's extremely rare
B) it's massive, evolutions mutations are usually tiny

It would be better if you said that earlier. I can't see this in your early comment, at last, I didn't see.

Because you apparently don't understand that this isn't how evolution works.

That answer was actually an example about your previous comment. Because you said it was an example that recently happend. It's not that I don't know what a mutation is.

It didn't?

Last, I had read in this topic(if I'm right) that the eye evolved in 200.000 years to how complex it is now. I will search it up for you. And, for evolution, 200.000 years are very less.

It would appear, my fellow Darwinists, that Reiki000 is just another MacFan1. Only smarter, but more prone to straying off topic.

lol, why do you think that?

see the lottery as that 1 in a billion chance of getting a good mutation instead of a bad mutation. when you win it you will get the positive effect from it.
and whit this positive mutation you climb up in the food chain. (survival of the fittest)
or translated back to money and closer to ourself... more money on your bank account will let you climb up in social connections, and get more respect from society.

I understand what you mean, but I must say this. Who has ever been happy because s/he won the lottery? Almost all of them became poor or died young.

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It would appear, my fellow Darwinists, that Reiki000 is just another MacFan1

I habe just read a few of his posts... DO YOU COMPARE ME WITH HIM!? Oh c'mon.

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...You're not making any sense. You obviously don't understand evolution, and you don't seem capable of offering any good material that makes sense. Whose side are you on, anyway?

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...You're not making any sense. You obviously don't understand evolution, and you don't seem capable of offering any good material that makes sense.

Why do I not make any sense?

Whose side are you on, anyway?

sides? I'm just asking questions, nothing more.

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This brings new meaning to "just like MacFan1". You have yet to offer a good, solid idea that isn't just quoting and questioning.

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It would be better if you said that earlier. I can't see this in your early comment, at last, I didn't see.


It's fine.

That answer was actually an example about your previous comment. Because you said it was an example that recently happend. It's not that I don't know what a mutation is.


I'm not sure what you mean, but actually i misread your post, sorry about that. The reason no Jewish babies aren't born with circumcisions are
A) It hasn't been nearly long enough for such a trivial mutation to occur, if it happened at all, it would be in tiny stages, and this couldn't happen because of such a short time and because...
B) It's pretty much completely unbeneficial, so there's no reason it should be more widespread and continue developing further.

Last, I had read in this topic(if I'm right) that the eye evolved in 200.000 years to how complex it is now. I will search it up for you. And, for evolution, 200.000 years are very less.


Complex eyes supposedly started developing rapidly during the Cambrian explosion, but it's completely possible that they're older than that.
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By the way, you should probably just ignore masterforger, he has a tendency to make quick, insulting accusation about people.

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