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stormwolf722
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Well a lot of people have been telling me evolution is real. They give me the most craziest surreal 'facts'. Has anyone discovered any fish with legs? Any humans with gills or fins? If you put all the pieces of a watch into you're pocket and shake it around for trillions of years, will it ever become a watch? Is there but one possibility? Or if you completely dismantle a chicken and a fish, and put it into a box, shaking it around for trillions of years. Will it ever become a fish with wings? or a chicken with fins? :l

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It's also worth noting that just because a species can change over time - doesn't necessarily mean that it will. Furthermore, it isn't just a 'blink and you'll miss it' process, transition/evolution is a process that doesn't just happen overnight.

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I believe in Evolution (although it is technically a theory, so there is still likely more to be discovered), but I don't get why Creationists can't accept that maybe God created Evolution or that the passage of how God created the Earth in 7 days is a metaphor or 7 days in Heaven or something...if we take the Bible literally, we would need to worry ourselves about what would happen if our ostriches killed our neighbors.

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although it is technically a theory


It is a theory, there's no technically about it.

I don't get why Creationists can't accept that maybe God created Evolution or that the passage of how God created the Earth in 7 days is a metaphor or 7 days in Heaven or something


Because it disproves the Bible literally, which is how it was meant to be taught. All this apologetic bull is just the modern way to not having it's worth be in firewood.
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I don't get why Creationists can't accept that maybe God created Evolution or that the passage of how God created the Earth in 7 days is a metaphor or 7 days in Heaven or something


Because it disproves the Bible literally, which is how it was meant to be taught. All this apologetic bull is just the modern way to not having it's worth be in firewood.

Well in all honesty, no ONE single person can prove whether evolution or creation is the actual key here. While maybe Evloution sounds more realistic, evolving from a lower life form, WHICH has been proven through scientific research or organisims and small species. So us as humans coming from a smaller species evoloving into a smarter more advanced race is quite and highly possible. While creation could have happened but is more less likly. Some believe in God, others Budda, Some Praise Alha, and some worshop many gods at once. But the idea that alll life was just created in 7 days doesn't seem as realistic as evolution.
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But the idea that alll life was just created in 7 days doesn't seem as realistic as evolution.


What's more realistic-

Evolution. The belief that things keep evolving from nothing it seems and has some issues with the theory or-

Creationism. The belief that God, who is supernatural, who can do all things, and had always existed, created everything in 7 days.
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What's more realistic-

Evolution. The belief that things keep evolving from nothing it seems and has some issues with the theory or-

Creationism. The belief that God, who is supernatural, who can do all things, and had always existed, created everything in 7 days.


Evolution.

Because we have no proof of a God.
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What's more realistic-

Evolution. The belief that things keep evolving from nothing it seems and has some issues with the theory or-

Creationism. The belief that God, who is supernatural, who can do all things, and had always existed, created everything in 7 days.


Evolution.

Because we have no proof of a God.
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Evolution. The belief that things keep evolving from nothing it seems and has some issues with the theory or-


No, thats not what evolution is at all.

Evolution has nothing to do with the start of the universe or the start of life.
macfan1
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Evolution.

Because we have no proof of a God.


Wait, we have no proof of evolution either.

But we have no proof of the wind. We can't see it. How do you know it's there? You can feel it. You might not see God physically, but you can feel him.

Ask any Christian if they can feel God.
nichodemus
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Wait, we have no proof of evolution either.


We do have proof of it.

But we have no proof of the wind. We can't see it. How do you know it's there? You can feel it. You might not see God physically, but you can feel him.

Ask any Christian if they can feel God.


I fail to see how comparing ''wind'' and ''God'' proves God exists. We know wind exists, and there have been experiments done to proof how it comes about. Wind is simple air in motion. It is caused by the uneven heating of the earth's surface by the sun. Since the earthâs surface is made of very different types of land and water, it absorbs the sunâs heat at different rates. So yes, we do know about the existence of wind.

They think they feel God. They don't know that is God, or just their mind playing mental tricks on themselves, consoling themselves that there's someone who cares for their egoistic selves.
dair5
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Wait, we have no proof of evolution either.


Yes we do. We have tons of it. Did you completely skip the evolution bomb?

But we have no proof of the wind. We can't see it. How do you know it's there? You can feel it. You might not see God physically, but you can feel him.


Not everyone can feel god.

Ask any Christian if they can feel God.


That wouldn't even come up to half the people on earth.
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GOD'S NOT DEAD

I believe that God exists. And click on the link.


He certainly isn't, because he certainly doesn't exist. It's rather easy to rip holes in the Bible and disprove his existence. A wide array of paradoxes already do so, a simple feel good video proves nothing, except herd those poor trapped sheep into believing someone higher above is actually caring for them.
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Wait, we have no proof of evolution either.

You know very well that we have.

But we have no proof of the wind. We can't see it. How do you know it's there? You can feel it.

Seeing is only one sense. As long as you can measure it somehow, it's there. We definitely have proof of the existence of wind. Go to any meteorolical station.

You might not see God physically, but you can feel him.

I cannot feel him...?

Ask any Christian if they can feel God.

How do I know what they feel is god?

Btw, I discovered a new field within paleontology lately, which is Paleohistology. Think a fossilized bone is simply stone? Think again. In many cases you still see all bone structures and such, not the original material of course but all fibres and structures are clearly visible. Here's an interesting link (short text and some photographies):
Paleohistology Widens the Field of View in Paleontology

I've had the opportunity to work some time with thin-sections of fossil osteoderms lately, pretty neat stuff.
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Evolution. The belief that things keep evolving from nothing it seems and has some issues with the theory


1) it's a theory and fact, not a belief. We've been over this. (lie count 1)

2)it doesn't state things evolved from nothing, I have provided the definition of evolution numerous time to you any many others on this thread and that information can easily be found in the first few links in the list of links on the first page of this thread and my profile. (lie count 2)

3) I have also defined what a theory is to you so you should already know that belief has nothing to do with it. (lie count 3)

Wait, we have no proof of evolution either.


Evidence for evolution has been provided to you in the list of links found on the first page of this thread and my profile, which I know you have seen. Specific links for evidence has been provided for you in replies and I think on your profile as well. (lie count 4)

From the perspective of your religion, I thought you weren't suppose to lie? Guess I was wrong on that one.
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I beleive in evolution, simply because there is too much evidence supporting it. On the other hand, there is no evidence that a god exists, it's more of a spiritual thing.
Why would there need to be evidence God exists? Wouldn't it be more like He wants you to find him your self? But from a logical view, there is no proof, so why should I beleive there is a god? Hmmm, I kind of just had a theological arguement with myself.

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