I agree, this is just wrong in so many ways. I never heard of any war, where the soldiers treats a death person in that inhuman way. And this is not just a war. It a war where they supposed to help the people.
It is all very well looking at it as an isolated incident, but nobody has any clue what led up to it.
Not saying it should be excused, not at all, but it's a war zone. 10 minutes earlier they were shooting at other and trying to kill each other... some would say that is inhuman. Did they view each other as human beings when they were trying to kill each other or simply as the enemy?
And seriously, do you think the Taliban treat the corpses of US soldiers any better? Are American soldiers supposed to be above what has happened in every single conflict between humans since time began?
Native Americans scalped those they killed, wars in the Congo have led to cannibalism and dare we even go with what the German soldiers did to the naked girls they violated and murdered during WW2 in the concentration camps?
Don't look at this link unless you want to see inhumanity on a mass scale....
And seriously, do you think the Taliban treat the corpses of US soldiers any better? Are American soldiers supposed to be above what has happened in every single conflict between humans since time began?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Native Americans scalped those they killed, wars in the Congo have led to cannibalism and dare we even go with what the German soldiers did to the naked girls they violated and murdered during WW2 in the concentration camps?
So we're going to continue looking back and justifying our actions and not try to move forward as a civilization?
It's one thing about shooting your enemy because you have to save your life or do your duty, but quite another to take a piss on someone who just died just for laugh's sake.
I agree, this is just wrong in so many ways. I never heard of any war, where the soldiers treats a death person in that inhuman way.
May I respectfully suggest that you look into every single conflict there are detailed records about, because if this is the only war you've heard about this sort of things, you're misinformed and unaware.
Try typing 'American soldier collect Japanese body parts' into Google.
In fact, I could give you a dozen or so things to search about relating to what happens in wars between enemies.
^Mostly what Dewi said. There are always going to be soldiers desecrating the enemy dead. The good thing is that the situation is being investigated not just random court-martialing.
Did I suggest they did? I'm saying that you need to look at the complete picture rather than an isolated instance.
So we're going to continue looking back and justifying our actions and not try to move forward as a civilization?
It's one thing about shooting your enemy because you have to save your life or do your duty, but quite another to take a piss on someone who just died just for laugh's sake.
We'll never move forward as long as we have troops fighting troops. There is nothing civilised about war and contrary to popular belief, the rules mean next to nothing in combat zones.
As far as soldiers desecrating the bodies of their enemies, this is not the first time nor the last it will happen, no matter how these American soldiers are punished.
I say again, there is nothing civilised about war. Nothing.
The soldier is trained to kill, and that training involves removing the social barrier of one human being killing another. They do that by believing that the enemy is not another human being, just the enemy.
They have desecrated the corpse of an enemy. Not formerly an enemy. The corpse to them isn't a human being, it is the corpse of the enemy.
Doesn't excuse it as I said in my first post on this subject, but it is the facts of the matter.
Rephrase: Just because someone has done something to you, doesn't mean you have to sink that low and retaliate.
And again, did I suggest that anyone should? No, I was simply saying that this is not an isolated incident and it happens on all sides, this is solely an 'Americans are disgusting animals, look we have proof'. Every side of this war will do unspeakable things to each other.
There isn't. But increasingly, we are seeing people trying to reign in such excesses, which is good.
I disagree. There is no evidence to suggest that those in combat zones treat their enemy any differently to those in past conflicts. There is a psychology to humiliating the enemy, in the same way there is a psychology to killing the enemy or maiming the enemy to remove them from the combat zone.
We won't change through rules or punishments because these men don't view things in the same way as we do sitting on the sidelines.
I disagree. There is no evidence to suggest that those in combat zones treat their enemy any differently to those in past conflicts. There is a psychology to humiliating the enemy, in the same way there is a psychology to killing the enemy or maiming the enemy to remove them from the combat zone.
No. What I meant to say is that we are increasingly made aware of such excesses in war, which might bring in public opinion to the fore. As it is, I don't think this was the only case in the media reported since the past year.
