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DSM
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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/13/us/video-marines-urinating/index.html?hpt=ias_c1

I want to hear your opinions about this. So far in the original video, there is only supportive people about this. After my opinion this is inhuman.

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thepunisher93
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Are they? You have a very strange view of how a soldier is trained if you really believe that.

A friend of mine told me who is a leftanent(Indian English Baby!)
Dewi1066
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A friend of mine told me who is a leftanent(Indian English Baby!)


Ah okay.

A friend of mine told me the moon is made from cheese, but it doesn't make it so.
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Alright, let's get back on topic here.

Deth666
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All war is filled with inhuman cruelty. I'm not saying its alright, by any means, but don't act so surprised and appalled when you hear about it happening. Naivete.

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All war is filled with inhuman cruelty. I'm not saying its alright, by any means, but don't act so surprised and appalled when you hear about it happening. Naivete.


We're not acting surprised, but just outraged. Even though it's a common occurrence, we still feel shock about it, since we don't have the mentality of a combat veteran.
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Have any of you ever been in a war? Have you experienced combat first-hand? How many of you have seen people killed next to you, or had to defend yourself in a life or death situation? Honestly until you have had these experiences you will never understand what it means to be a soldier, or to know the feelings that flood through you during and immediately after a combat situation. Speculate all you like, dig up whatever 'reports' you can, but bear these things in mind.

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Have any of you ever been in a war? Have you experienced combat first-hand? How many of you have seen people killed next to you, or had to defend yourself in a life or death situation? Honestly until you have had these experiences you will never understand what it means to be a soldier, or to know the feelings that flood through you during and immediately after a combat situation. Speculate all you like, dig up whatever 'reports' you can, but bear these things in mind.


Next year. Maybe then, will I know.
MRWalker82
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BEFORE YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT I SAY, JUST KNOW THAT I AM INFANTRY SOLDIER PREPARING TO GO TO AGHANISTAN. I LEARN THINGS ABOUT AFGHAN THAT IS NOT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC


How interesting, then, that you post a Latin motto on your profile that is not used by ANY UK infantry regiments...

BTW I was a US infantry soldier who was involved with the initial invasion of Iraq. I spent 16 months on the ground during that conflict and was involved in several offensive operations against our enemies there.
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No, I do think this is bad, but this isnt out of control. Now, the Holocaust was out of control. 9-11 was out of control. This is only bad; not out of control.

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Ready for -really- not PC statements?

Better be.

Honestly, I do not find anything with this truly inherently out of control or taboo. As long as war has been around, so has the act of desecrating corpses. It demoralizes your enemies and proves as a sort of mental release from the atrocities seen around combatants. Being the intelligent dumb apes we are, taking another life (or seeing a brother in arms fall in combat) does not simply sit easy on a (fairly stable) mind and go away. What is the coping mechanism for such things?
A fallen enemies corpse, which proves no real intrinsic value to either side, proves as a logical object to vent those emotions, feeling and pains on. Kick it, scream at it, shoot it or urinate on it. That is how one 'tells' the enemy how they feel.. 'Tell' the enemy that killing their brothers in arms was the wrong thing do. 'Show' them what happens when they decide to pick a fight. Anything to release the mental pressure built up in war.

War is hell. Always has been, always will. War never changes. It pits men against other men. Kill or be killed. No one said it should or could be nice and pretty and fair. Hell, it -can't- be. When you are told "Those are the enemy, they need to die. Kill them." all normal socially acceptable boundaries are thrown out the window.

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It demoralizes your enemies and proves as a sort of mental release from the atrocities seen around combatants.

Wouldn't it just make your enemies mad that you are disrespecting there fellow comrades?
Devoidless
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Let me ask you a question.

If one day you got home and found that your neighbor you liked so much (You know the one, the guy who makes those awesome cupcakes) had his head impaled on a pike outside your front door. And the rest of him was strew across the front yard with carrion birds upon it.

Would you be mad? Or, you know, scared witless and in mental shock?

jroyster22
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I think that video is disgusting. No human should disgrace another human who has passed in this way.

MRWalker82
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I think that video is disgusting. No human should disgrace another human who has passed in this way.


Let me ask... What difference does it make? What is it about a dead body that deserves deference or respect? It is a corpse, nothing more. We regularly chop corpses into pieces and throw them on the grill. We grind them into little bits, shove them into intestines and call it sausage. Why, then, is a human corpse so much more deserving of special treatment?
Dewi1066
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Let me ask... What difference does it make? What is it about a dead body that deserves deference or respect? It is a corpse, nothing more. We regularly chop corpses into pieces and throw them on the grill. We grind them into little bits, shove them into intestines and call it sausage. Why, then, is a human corpse so much more deserving of special treatment?


Not sure I'd go anywhere near that far, there is no comparison between butchering an animal for food and respect for a human corpse. If there were, why don't we have human butcher shops making special pies in that Sweeney Todd way?
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