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thepunisher93
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This article states that dutch government banned face veil.
I think this really sucks and is hypocritical.
What are ur thoughts?

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nichodemus
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so we can call netherland an intolerant country?


I don't think we can call it such. They banned it for secular reasoning Punisher, not based on religious grounds. We should separate the two issues at hand, since it tends to get messy if that's not made clear.
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it's as easy as that. if they wanted to to that.
reality however has learned us that they do not want to do that.
and they do also not want their face on the official ID card.
while it is a law to have that and to have the ID whit you at all times.

Only someone stupid enough will do that bcoz even in religion there are exceptions and filling a legal purpose is an exception.
Again do you have a source about this claim?
I don't think we can call it such. They banned it for secular reasoning Punisher, not based on religious grounds. We should separate the two issues at hand, since it tends to get messy if that's not made clear.

Laws can be changed, can't they?
As laws reflect the common ethics of a society.
nichodemus
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As laws reflect the common ethics of a society.


And the common consensus is that they should be banned, isn't it?
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And the common consensus is that they should be banned, isn't it?

Yes that is why I called them a intolerant nation
they should'nt object this atleast.
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Yes that is why I called them a intolerant nation
they should'nt object this atleast.


Many of the second generation and third generation Muslims are for banning it too as Party mentioned.
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Many of the second generation and third generation Muslims are for banning it too as Party mentioned.

there is a difference b/w many and majority.(link?)
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Again do you have a source about this claim?


dutch news.

not importend enoufg for other countrys media to spend time on.
so no, no english sources.
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Yes that is why I called them a intolerant nation
they should'nt object this atleast.


Omg you live in Saudi Arabia. If there is a region with intolerant nations it is yours. If u look for example in this article it shows that Christians are allowed into the country as temporary workers and are not allowed to openly practice their religion whilst on the other hand, you come to the Netherlands, we give you houses, work, money and you spawn mosque's, and we aren't even able to pray for food in your country.
Don't you dare to talk about a intolerant Holland.
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Omg you live in Saudi Arabia. If there is a region with intolerant nations it is yours. If u look for example in this article it shows that Christians are allowed into the country as temporary workers and are not allowed to openly practice their religion whilst on the other hand, you come to the Netherlands, we give you houses, work, money and you spawn mosque's, and we aren't even able to pray for food in your country.
Don't you dare to talk about a intolerant Holland.


He lives in Pakistan.

And I've never seen him trying to repress Christians solely because they are Christians, so please don't slam my friend. Also, do not generalize and stereotype people. Pakistan might be more intolerant overall than other nations, but that doesn't mean individuals from Pakistan are all intolerant bigots.
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Omg you live in Saudi Arabia. If there is a region with intolerant nations it is yours. If u look for example in this article it shows that Christians are allowed into the country as temporary workers and are not allowed to openly practice their religion whilst on the other hand, you come to the Netherlands, we give you houses, work, money and you spawn mosque's, and we aren't even able to pray for food in your country.
Don't you dare to talk about a intolerant Holland.

actually everyone is allowed on temporary visa not just christians
sexcondly there are cities made for non muslims on expensive places so they can live there how ever they like.
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And I've never seen him trying to repress Christians solely because they are Christians, so please don't slam my friend. Also, do not generalize and stereotype people. Pakistan might be more intolerant overall than other nations, but that doesn't mean individuals from Pakistan are all intolerant bigots.


punicher was doing the exact same thing. it's a logic response.
nichodemus
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Two wrongs don't make a right does it? Yes he erred, but we don't need to respond in the same way.

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actually everyone is allowed on temporary visa not just christians
sexcondly there are cities made for non muslims on expensive places so they can live there how ever they like.


if we would break down all mosque's and transportend all the muslims to only a few places then that sure will bring a uproar from the muslim community. (probably all over the world)
THAT would look like a upcoming holocaust.

we tolerate them to be everywhere in our country and to do as they like everywhere. and as he said we even support new people whit our social care system.

now who is the actual most tolerating country here?
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actually everyone is allowed on temporary visa not just christians
sexcondly there are cities made for non muslims on expensive places so they can live there how ever they like.


And isn't that the problem. We allow all people who come here to live here as long as they want, and we Christians can get to your country temporary. Doesn't seem a fair deal.

He lives in Pakistan.

And I've never seen him trying to repress Christians solely because they are Christians, so please don't slam my friend. Also, do not generalize and stereotype people. Pakistan might be more intolerant overall than other nations, but that doesn't mean individuals from Pakistan are all intolerant bigots.


Well, his profile said Saudi Arab. so I thought he lived there.
And I'm not talking about him, I'm talking about Saudi Arab. laws.
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And isn't that the problem. We allow all people who come here to live here as long as they want, and we Christians can get to your country temporary. Doesn't seem a fair deal.

not just the christians, but all the forigners including muslims.
if we would break down all mosque's and transportend all the muslims to only a few places then that sure will bring a uproar from the muslim community. (probably all over the world)

if you give them a freedom of their religion, no one will be infuriated.
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