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MageGrayWolf

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Posted June 21, '12 5:36am UTC

here's a question do you belive that you will go to Heaven or Hell?

Ditto to 314d1.

Do you even think we deserve to go to Heaven even if we do bad deeds in our lives?

What are you being deserving of?

Tell you what just believe me and everything I say, I'm not going to give you any reason to believe you just have to. If you do this and kiss my *** and grovel for forgiveness of the most horrible act of not believing me before I will forgive you by killing a puppy. I know you really deserved to die but hey I forgave you, so the puppy had to die. How else do you think you can be forgiven?
Better yet if you continue to grovel and kiss my *** for the rest of your life. I will reward you with the most awesome reward of being able to grovel and kiss my *** for all eternity! Sounds great huh?! But if you don't or you stop groveling at some point, this guy named Stan is going to come over and keep constantly hurting you. He can do this for all eternity by the way.

So here's a question do you believe me or do you have Stan come over and constantly hurt you?

Do you even think you even deserve to have Stan come over and hurt you constantly?

[quote]here's a question do you belive that you will go to Heaven or Hell?[/quote]\r\n\r\nDitto to 314d1.\r\n\r\n[quote]Do you even think we deserve to go to Heaven even if we do bad deeds in our lives?[/quote]\r\n\r\nWhat are you being deserving of?\r\n\r\nTell you what just believe me and everything I say, I'm not going to give you any reason to believe you just have to. If you do this and kiss my *** and grovel for forgiveness of the most horrible act of not believing me before I will forgive you by killing a puppy. I know you really deserved to die but hey I forgave you, so the puppy had to die. How else do you think you can be forgiven? \r\nBetter yet if you continue to grovel and kiss my *** for the rest of your life. I will reward you with the most awesome reward of being able to grovel and kiss my *** for all eternity! Sounds great huh?! But if you don't or you stop groveling at some point, this guy named Stan is going to come over and keep constantly hurting you. He can do this for all eternity by the way.\r\n\r\nSo here's a question do you believe me or do you have Stan come over and constantly hurt you?\r\n\r\nDo you even think you even deserve to have Stan come over and hurt you constantly?

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BoredMartian

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Nomad

Posted June 21, '12 5:38am UTC

I'd commit suicide thinking that if I did something bad I'd spend eternity on fire being tortured.

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xAyjAy

4,710 posts

Blacksmith

Posted June 24, '12 5:28pm UTC

Tell you what just believe me and everything I say, I'm not going to give you any reason to believe you just have to. If you do this and kiss my *** and grovel for forgiveness of the most horrible act of not believing me before I will forgive you by killing a puppy. I know you really deserved to die but hey I forgave you, so the puppy had to die. How else do you think you can be forgiven?
Better yet if you continue to grovel and kiss my *** for the rest of your life. I will reward you with the most awesome reward of being able to grovel and kiss my *** for all eternity! Sounds great huh?! But if you don't or you stop groveling at some point, this guy named Stan is going to come over and keep constantly hurting you. He can do this for all eternity by the way.

So here's a question do you believe me or do you have Stan come over and constantly hurt you?

Do you even think you even deserve to have Stan come over and hurt you constantly?

have you seen this video? it is like your words:

god exist!

so, if i believe into god i get to heaven even if i killed and tortured thousand peoples (including babys) just for fun? and if i do not believe in god but was a good and nice person (who helped others just to see them being happy and not to get a reward) then i get sent to hell just because of my dis-believe in god? very logic......if god is like that then she/he/it is a baby who wants attention.

[quote]Tell you what just believe me and everything I say, I'm not going to give you any reason to believe you just have to. If you do this and kiss my *** and grovel for forgiveness of the most horrible act of not believing me before I will forgive you by killing a puppy. I know you really deserved to die but hey I forgave you, so the puppy had to die. How else do you think you can be forgiven?\r\nBetter yet if you continue to grovel and kiss my *** for the rest of your life. I will reward you with the most awesome reward of being able to grovel and kiss my *** for all eternity! Sounds great huh?! But if you don't or you stop groveling at some point, this guy named Stan is going to come over and keep constantly hurting you. He can do this for all eternity by the way.\r\n\r\nSo here's a question do you believe me or do you have Stan come over and constantly hurt you?\r\n\r\nDo you even think you even deserve to have Stan come over and hurt you constantly?[/quote]\r\n\r\nhave you seen this video? it is like your words:\r\n\r\n[url=http://hulalaoo.newgrounds.com/news/post/729114]god exist![/url]\r\n\r\nso, if i believe into god i get to heaven even if i killed and tortured thousand peoples (including babys) just for fun? and if i do not believe in god but was a good and nice person (who helped others just to see them being happy and not to get a reward) then i get sent to hell just because of my dis-believe in god? very logic......if god is like that then she/he/it is a baby who wants attention.

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44Flames

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Nomad

Posted June 24, '12 8:39pm UTC

Tell you what just believe me and everything I say, I'm not going to give you any reason to believe you just have to. If you do this and kiss my *** and grovel for forgiveness of the most horrible act of not believing me before I will forgive you by killing a puppy. I know you really deserved to die but hey I forgave you, so the puppy had to die. How else do you think you can be forgiven?
Better yet if you continue to grovel and kiss my *** for the rest of your life. I will reward you with the most awesome reward of being able to grovel and kiss my *** for all eternity! Sounds great huh?! But if you don't or you stop groveling at some point, this guy named Stan is going to come over and keep constantly hurting you. He can do this for all eternity by the way.

It's not really like that, like we kiss God's *** and worship him everyday and every hour. It's more like we believe in him and most people just go to church once a week or less and we try to do our best to do good deeds. But if we commit a sin we can be forgived by God if we go to the sacrament of reconciliation which is done by a preiest and if we are truly sorry for our sins we will be forgived. Then if we are going to die we can get the sacrament of annionting of the sick which is done by the church and when we get this it clears all our sins and makes us pure and holy so then when we die we can hopefully be with God in Heaven.

[quote]Tell you what just believe me and everything I say, I'm not going to give you any reason to believe you just have to. If you do this and kiss my *** and grovel for forgiveness of the most horrible act of not believing me before I will forgive you by killing a puppy. I know you really deserved to die but hey I forgave you, so the puppy had to die. How else do you think you can be forgiven?\r\nBetter yet if you continue to grovel and kiss my *** for the rest of your life. I will reward you with the most awesome reward of being able to grovel and kiss my *** for all eternity! Sounds great huh?! But if you don't or you stop groveling at some point, this guy named Stan is going to come over and keep constantly hurting you. He can do this for all eternity by the way.[/quote]\r\n\r\nIt's not really like that, like we kiss God's *** and worship him everyday and every hour. It's more like we believe in him and most people just go to church once a week or less and we try to do our best to do good deeds. But if we commit a sin we can be forgived by God if we go to the sacrament of reconciliation which is done by a preiest and if we are truly sorry for our sins we will be forgived. Then if we are going to die we can get the sacrament of annionting of the sick which is done by the church and when we get this it clears all our sins and makes us pure and holy so then when we die we can hopefully be with God in Heaven.

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HahiHa

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Regent

Posted June 24, '12 9:43pm UTC

Why are you made dependent of priests, ointments and other rituals? I thought each christian is supposed to have a direct relationship with god, in this case religion as institution IMO only has a role of guide, not of key, to heaven.

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MageGrayWolf

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Farmer

Posted June 25, '12 3:20am UTC

It's not really like that, like we kiss God's *** and worship him everyday and every hour.

Really? If a team of doctors saves someones life who is usually the first and often the only one to be thanked? If someone beats the odds who get's thanked? If anything fortunate happens in your life who get's the credit? If you're having a meal is it the person who prepared the meal, the store you bought the meal from, those who prepared the food or the people who harvested the food harvested who is thanked for that meal?

I'm willing to bet the first words to be said in any of those situations is "thank God".

But if we commit a sin we can be forgived by God if we go to the sacrament of reconciliation which is done by a preiest and if we are truly sorry for our sins we will be forgived.

Where you ask for mercy from God or as I put it "grovel for forgiveness".

Seeing as you're not believing me you're going to end up having Stan come over and inflict harm on you.

[quote]It's not really like that, like we kiss God's *** and worship him everyday and every hour.[/quote]\r\n\r\nReally? If a team of doctors saves someones life who is usually the first and often the only one to be thanked? If someone beats the odds who get's thanked? If anything fortunate happens in your life who get's the credit? If you're having a meal is it the person who prepared the meal, the store you bought the meal from, those who prepared the food or the people who harvested the food harvested who is thanked for that meal? \r\n\r\nI'm willing to bet the first words to be said in any of those situations is "thank God".\r\n\r\n[quote]But if we commit a sin we can be forgived by God if we go to the sacrament of reconciliation which is done by a preiest and if we are truly sorry for our sins we will be forgived.[/quote]\r\n\r\nWhere you ask for mercy from God or as I put it "grovel for forgiveness".\r\n\r\nSeeing as you're not believing me you're going to end up having Stan come over and inflict harm on you.

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xAyjAy

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Blacksmith

Posted June 25, '12 4:09pm UTC

so, if i believe into god i get to heaven even if i killed and tortured thousand peoples (including babys) just for fun? and if i do not believe in god but was a good and nice person (who helped others just to see them being happy and not to get a reward) then i get sent to hell just because of my dis-believe in god? very logic......if god is like that then she/he/it is a baby who wants attention.

But if we commit a sin we can be forgived by God if we go to the sacrament of reconciliation which is done by a preiest and if we are truly sorry for our sins we will be forgived. Then if we are going to die we can get the sacrament of annionting of the sick which is done by the church and when we get this it clears all our sins and makes us pure and holy so then when we die we can hopefully be with God in Heaven.

sounds logic, all i have to do is, even if i kill/harm/hurt people daily, to believe in good and beg him to forgive all my sins. even if i committed all the seven deadly sins (and that daily/weekly) then i have just to believe in god and ask a priest and/or god for forgifness and then i kome to heaven? sounds like an easy way to get to heaven!

http://www.demotivation.us/sarcasm-1263967.html

[quote]so, if i believe into god i get to heaven even if i killed and tortured thousand peoples (including babys) just for fun? and if i do not believe in god but was a good and nice person (who helped others just to see them being happy and not to get a reward) then i get sent to hell just because of my dis-believe in god? very logic......if god is like that then she/he/it is a baby who wants attention.[/quote]\r\n\r\n[quote]But if we commit a sin we can be forgived by God if we go to the sacrament of reconciliation which is done by a preiest and if we are truly sorry for our sins we will be forgived. Then if we are going to die we can get the sacrament of annionting of the sick which is done by the church and when we get this it clears all our sins and makes us pure and holy so then when we die we can hopefully be with God in Heaven.[/quote]\r\n\r\nsounds logic, all i have to do is, even if i kill/harm/hurt people daily, to believe in good and beg him to forgive all my sins. even if i committed all the seven deadly sins (and that daily/weekly) then i have just to believe in god and ask a priest and/or god for forgifness and then i kome to heaven? sounds like an easy way to get to heaven!\r\n\r\n[img]http://www.demotivation.us/sarcasm-1263967.html[/img]

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44Flames

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Nomad

Posted June 26, '12 5:05pm UTC

Seeing as you're not believing me you're going to end up having Stan come over and inflict harm on you.

It's not that I don't believe you it's just that I'm sticking with my opinoin.

sounds logic, all i have to do is, even if i kill/harm/hurt people daily, to believe in good and beg him to forgive all my sins. even if i committed all the seven deadly sins (and that daily/weekly) then i have just to believe in god and ask a priest and/or god for forgifness and then i kome to heaven? sounds like an easy way to get to heaven!

To be honest I'm not an exert on this so I don't really know everything. But I don't think it's like I can do everything and just ask for forgiveness. Because God is the one that forgives you and he knows everything so he knows if you are truly sorry.

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HahiHa

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Regent

Posted June 26, '12 6:17pm UTC

I'll ask again, do you think nothing of the fact you're apparently dependant of other humans and rituals in order to get forgiven, even though you're supposed to have a direct connection to god? Why would you need oils if god can see straight in your consciousness? Is religion as an institution really necessary?

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314d1

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Nomad

Posted June 27, '12 2:55am UTC

To be honest I'm not an exert on this so I don't really know everything. But I don't think it's like I can do everything and just ask for forgiveness. Because God is the one that forgives you and he knows everything so he knows if you are truly sorry.

So you can do anything, as long as you are "Sorry" for it.

"Hitler....You genocided my chosen people!"

"Yes....But I am sorry."

"Oh. Then it is cool bro."

Wow I am tired.

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Mickeyryn

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Shepherd

Posted June 27, '12 3:23am UTC

I am Catholic. I am proud of it. I say my prayers every night, before bed. I believe God is real. It shows in almost anything, and everything.

I believe Heaven looks like what your idea of Paradise is. If your paradise in your imagination is a big field with sun shining and apple trees everywhere? Then that would be Heaven to you. If your idea of Paradis is a cloudy horizon on a beach with stars twinkling everywhere, I believe that would then be your Heaven.

Hell is almost the same, but opposite-in a bad way. If you didn't understand me, here is what I think about Hell. I believe Hell is filled with your worst fears and dreams. If you completely HATE spiders. There will be Turanchulas everywhere. If you HATE frogs (though I don't know how you could hate frogs)? They would be everywhere.

That is my idea. I think the end of the world will happen when nobody guesses it.

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314d1

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Nomad

Posted June 27, '12 3:37am UTC

I am Catholic. I am proud of it

Oh, really? You might need to say that a few more times, I don't think I am getting the message.

It shows in almost anything, and everything.

Care to give a few good examples? I can't see to much god in Mengele work...

I believe Heaven looks like what your idea of Paradise is. If your paradise in your imagination is a big field with sun shining and apple trees everywhere? Then that would be Heaven to you. If your idea of Paradis is a cloudy horizon on a beach with stars twinkling everywhere, I believe that would then be your Heaven.

Sounds...Lonely. Would you be alone in your own paradise? I am sure my paradise would require my family, what if they don't go to heaven? What if my idea of paradise involves women and drink? That is how many religions celebrate the afterlife...

Hell is almost the same, but opposite-in a bad way. If you didn't understand me, here is what I think about Hell. I believe Hell is filled with your worst fears and dreams. If you completely HATE spiders. There will be Turanchulas everywhere. If you HATE frogs (though I don't know how you could hate frogs)? They would be everywhere.

So if my idea of torture involves my family and friends being tortured in front of me, witch is definitely one of the worst things that can happen, then my friends and family would be tortured in front of me for all eternity? Even if they would have gotten to heaven?

Your ideas of heaven and hell really don't work when you add more then one person.

That is my idea. I think the end of the world will happen when nobody guesses it.

What do you base this off of, exactly?

[quote]I am Catholic. I am proud of it[/quote]\r\n\r\nOh, really? You might need to say that a few more times, I don't think I am getting the message. \r\n\r\n[quote]It shows in almost anything, and everything.[/quote]\r\n\r\nCare to give a few good examples? I can't see to much god in Mengele work... \r\n\r\n[quote]I believe Heaven looks like what your idea of Paradise is. If your paradise  in your imagination is a big field with sun shining and apple trees everywhere? Then that would be Heaven to you. If your idea of Paradis is a cloudy horizon on a beach with stars twinkling everywhere, I believe that would then be your Heaven.[/quote]\r\n\r\nSounds...Lonely. Would you be alone in your own paradise? I am sure my paradise would require my family, what if they don't go to heaven? What if my idea of paradise involves women and drink? That is how many religions celebrate the afterlife...\r\n\r\n[quote]Hell is almost the same, but opposite-in a bad way. If you didn't understand me, here is what I think about Hell. I believe Hell is filled with your worst fears and dreams. If you completely HATE spiders. There will be Turanchulas everywhere. If you HATE frogs (though I don't know how you could hate frogs)? They would be everywhere.[/quote]\r\n\r\nSo if my idea of torture involves my family and friends being tortured in front of me, witch is definitely one of the worst things that can happen, then my friends and family would be tortured in front of me for all eternity? Even if they would have gotten to heaven?\r\n\r\nYour ideas of heaven and hell really don't work when you add more then one person. \r\n\r\n[quote]That is my idea. I think the end of the world will happen when nobody guesses it.[/quote]\r\n\r\nWhat do you base this off of, exactly?

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thebluerabbit

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Farmer

Posted June 27, '12 3:59am UTC

I am Catholic. I am proud of it. I say my prayers every night, before bed. I believe God is real. It shows in almost anything, and everything.

thats not a reason for being catholic. thats a reason (kinda) for being theist.

Hell is almost the same, but opposite-in a bad way. If you didn't understand me, here is what I think about Hell. I believe Hell is filled with your worst fears and dreams. If you completely HATE spiders. There will be Turanchulas everywhere. If you HATE frogs (though I don't know how you could hate frogs)? They would be everywhere.

my hell would be a place filled with people who cant accept me. and honestly... all those people would get to your heaven. hell is actually filled with so many good people according to christianity.

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Mickeyryn

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Shepherd

Posted June 27, '12 4:32am UTC

Wow 314d1. You are really on my case today. I don't give a **** what you think. Rant all you want, but eat ****. Okay? Get out, hater.

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Kasic

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Jester

Posted June 27, '12 4:45am UTC

Wow 314d1. You are really on my case today. I don't give a **** what you think. Rant all you want, but eat ****. Okay? Get out, hater.

^lol.

This is a debate forum. If you were expecting to come in here, say what you believe and then think that everyone would thank you for sharing, you were mistaken.

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