@nichodemus You are probably right. I'm just trying to find someone who thinks homosexuality is wrong for a reason other than religion and is able to logically defend their belief, even if I think they are incorrect.
haha I think it's slightly icky, but I don't think it's wrong at all. I have a brother who is gay as well as a few friends who are and they are all amazing people.
Homosexuality is neither right nor wrong. These terms are an abstraction of a complex moral code that humans have developed due to strong external influences, such as religion, society, etc.
Take this situation for example.
Imagine two young women/men, doesn't really matter. They're placed in a room from birth and for the sake of the experiment may never leave the room. Assume they are well-fed and taken care of, but have no contact with their benefactors. Would they mate? Maybe. Would they feel "wrong" about it? No, because the concepts of "right" and "wrong" are imposed upon us by the people around us. Many people think that being gay is "wrong" because that's what their parents think, and their parents' parents. You'd be hard pressed to find a child whose parents support homosexuality who is themselves against homosexuality.
Rinjo, what you say is only partly right.. society is of course the most direct source of morals, religious morals being just spin-offs. But ultimately they have to come from somewhere; every human builds their own morals not only with external sources, but also with the faculty of empathy and common sense. "Right" or "wrong" are very subjective terms, because they stem from individuals.
Rinjo, what you say is only partly right.. society is of course the most direct source of morals, religious morals being just spin-offs. But ultimately they have to come from somewhere; every human builds their own morals not only with external sources, but also with the faculty of empathy and common sense. "Right" or "wrong" are very subjective terms, because they stem from individuals.
Correct. But common sense doesn't really dictate that homosexuality is wrong, does it? It was widely accepted for hundreds of years during the Greek and Roman empires, so clearly this was a societally driven decision. I'd argue that since the prominent world religions are opposed to it, that's a pretty good place to start. I feel that the acceptance of homosexuality is only making a return in this day and age because of the recent decline in religious belief.
How is this even a thread? Some people choose to be homosexual, some don't. It is nobody's right to judge. It's their choice. Let it be there's and stop judging. It's not right nor is it wrong. It's a choice that people make in their lifetime. And it's not in your power to choose for them. As the proverb says, "Let sleeping dogs lie."
How is this even a thread? Some people choose to be homosexual, some don't. It is nobody's right to judge. It's their choice. Let it be there's and stop judging. It's not right nor is it wrong. It's a choice that people make in their lifetime. And it's not in your power to choose for them. As the proverb says, "Let sleeping dogs lie."
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A CHOICE. Why do you think it exists? You think people want to be ridiculed? Homosexuality is an orientation towards the same sex, not a choice.
Your whole argumentation seems to be build on freedom to choose. What if it's not a choice? How then do you argue?
Even if it was a choice, that's still not a reason for it to be wrong. There is absolutely no reason to be against homosexuality except bigotry and religious nonsense.
