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Cheeseman298
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Is the world too overpopulated? I was thinking and that may be the reason food prices may be rising and will continue to rise.

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44Flames
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We waste an amazing amount of food, water, and fossil fuels in the United States (I know some European Countries have really stepped-up and started being more Eco-friendly, but it has yet to take off on a large scale in the government in the U.S)


The U.S government is more focused on the amount of people that are poor, homeless and jobless in the country. This is so because there is a huge economic crisis going on in many countries around the world and the major focus is to get the economy back up. But you are right in saying that the U.S.A is wasting tons of resources. I don't live in the U.S.A i live in Canada but that is my perspective on what the US government is looking on.
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I think it is getting more and more populare but the idiots that can actually change it in a big way are to stupid to do so.

44Flames
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think it is getting more and more populare but the idiots that can actually change it in a big way are to stupid to do so.


Don't you mean populated and can you explain to me who can change it. Nobody can change the world being overpopulated also people are going to keep on having children no matter anyone says.
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The death rates being higher than the birth rates are good for now, because it would be preferable if the population didn't get any larger. Also, I know that the United States' population isn't the entire world, but in a few years the baby boomers will die off and that will make the US population decline quite a bit.

nichodemus
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Not really will it? The flow of immigrants to the USA doesn't seem to be stopping anytime soon.

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but in a few years the baby boomers will die off and that will make the US population decline quite a bit.


This is true for Canada and the USA but what if there is another unexpected baby boom in the future. But people are choosing to have only two - three children now istead of having six or five children.
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This is true for Canada and the USA but what if there is another unexpected baby boom in the future.


I think you already answered your own question. We can come up with an infinite number of guesses and predictions, but if they're not backed by evidence than we're no more clairvoyant than the weatherman.

And current demographic patterns have indicated a slump in population growth for Western, First World nations for decades, which is likely to continue.
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I think you already answered your own question. We can come up with an infinite number of guesses and predictions, but if they're not backed by evidence than we're no more clairvoyant than the weatherman.


We can't back it up with evidence because we can't predict the future. It is unfair to say were is the evidence. Can you show me those demographic patterns of Western and First World nations. Maybe a link.
nichodemus
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Take a look at the USA's for example.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2PqTn9ywQ0I/Tf1RmQji9NI/AAAAAAAAAQo/TgI7lawTEgs/s1600/Fert.JPG

Also, Italy's population decline rate.

France's.

Spain's.

UK's.

Russia's.


We can't back it up with evidence because we can't predict the future. It is unfair to say were is the evidence.


In that case, why make such a baseless assumption and prediction?
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These are estimates and will be right but it could be off by a little. When I said we can't predict the future I meant that we can't predict it to the exact population.

nichodemus
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These are estimates and will be right but it could be off by a little. When I said we can't predict the future I meant that we can't predict it to the exact population.


These are collected by national agencies of various countries, via census. You don't get more accurate than that.

Did you? I distinctly remember you not predicting the population, but predicting another baby boom, which is extremely unlikely given that past trends have indicated a downward pattern. No one pretends to be able to predict a country's population in the future exactly, but we can roughly gauge the population levels.
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These are collected by national agencies of various countries, via census. You don't get more accurate than that.
Did you? I distinctly remember you not predicting the population, but predicting another baby boom, which is extremely unlikely given that past trends have indicated a downward pattern. No one pretends to be able to predict a country's population in the future exactly, but we can roughly gauge the population levels.


Really I just wanted my opinoin to be right that all. But I accept the fact that your statement is the right answer.
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@ nicho

those numbers do show a small decline in population. but it doesn't show the massive growth it had since the beginning of the industrial age.

the small decline does not match the massive growth since then.
or the population growth in other parts of the world. in the end the 55% population growth in africa and 51% population growth in the middle east aswell as the 35% growth in asia and 30% in latin america, is way more the the decline we see in those countrys

the only parts of the world whit actual population decline are russia (-1%) and Non-OECD Europe (-11%)
(china is calculated in asia. even tho it is bigger then Non-OECD Europe)

partydevil
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for the good order those % are from 1990 till 2008.

source: IEA

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It might be happening right now at this moment...but very slowly. And I think the world is increased population and there might be no more space in about 200-300 years or so.

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