My problem with evolution is that things are wayyy to complex.
That's not an excuse for not believing it, there are many, many things that are incredibly complex and crazy that we rely on all the time to work. Do you understand the scientific principles that allow our entire power system to function? Probably not, but that doesn't change the fact that somebody who's more educated on the subject does, and is most likely a more reliably person to make judgments about it's credibility then you are.
Creationism isn't taught at church. You learn these sort of things in a Christian school, or at classes. I agree that it is not a science, but I think it should be an optional class, and in some history classes, we learn about creationism because of the history behind it. I think it should still be taught in schools, but I want to hear a reason behind your thoughts, dizzyk
Well, in all fairness and equal rights, if public schools were to offer classes on Creationism, which is a Christian theory, then the schools would have to offer all ofther relgious theory classes as well. Then it wouldn't be difficult to immagine Scientology classes which would make me vomit in my Lucky Charms.
Public schools are run by the government. One of the main theorys of our (American) government is to have a seperation of Church and State. If a public institutin like schools were to have classes on a openly relgion based theory it would go against the tenant of Seperation of Church and state. Public schools are opperated from finances gained through taxation of the public, and while the US is predominatly a Chiristian nation, not every citizen is Christen and therefore they (I would assume) wouldn't appreciate their tax dollars going toward teach their childre, and all children beliefs that go against their own.
If creationism is to be taught then let it be taught at private school, keep it out of the public.
I don't believe in creationism, obviously, and I feel that we shouldn't let science and intelligence be harmed by our relgious beleifs. I am affraid for our soceity and the strength of the "bron again" relgious right. Look at the terrorist countries, they wage war because people believe differently from them. It won't take TOO many steps to go from teaching religion in public schools, to killing those who don't believe in the same things you do.
Simply because a majority thinks a certain way does not make that way of thinking correct. For example, look at Germany and the Halocaust.
I wrote a lot about several different subjects, but I feel I presented my argument to your Estel. Thanks for listening (as it were) to my opinions.
Well I don't believe in Jesus or God and I don't believe he died for our sins and that he will save all christian which sound really wrong and biased to me. I believe that science should be taught foremost in school and only christian school should be taught creationism. If creationism was taught at normal school the children would get confused at start having problems and arguing and also if we taught creationism then we would have to teach other religion and that doesn't really work at in then end. So no I don't think creationism should be taught at normal schools only christian schools
Creationism has an endless amount of possibilities. Its not even close to being limited to the Bible and Jesus...
None of them you can prove wrong, and you cannot call them crazy because they take place in another universe, one where you know NOTHING about.
@Drace- You're right the Flying Spaghetti Monster created us...
Why not?
My problem with evolution is that things are wayyy to complex.
Not an excuse...? Umm, is there not a problem when we have such a complex world and we are able to find scientific answers to most things so fast? These answers sound funny to me..
The big bang theory for one sounds just like creationism. This happened this happened, and then this, this, and this. Its the same as me saying that when I hit the ball up, a invisible man who could fly, took it out of my hands brought it up and dropped it. This would have been a reasonable thing if we knew nothing of our Earth, but know we know it is gravity. (Not the best example ^^) Now one can come up with another reason as to why the ball did not come down for a while.
The big bang theory seems very reasonable to us because we hardly know anything of space, especially billions of years ago... The Big bang theory is one of the many we can come up with.
If we knew everything in the world...I'm telling you, our knowledge of science would contradict each other. We could be on the wrong path and not know it.
As I see it, creationism is just as serious as science.
How do you out there who believe in creationism and that the Earth is only 6k years old account for fossils? Do you not believe in the science of radioactive dating?
My problem is that I worry people let their faith get in the way of their minds. Can't they both work together?
I think that we will never know how the earth was created. IT will always remain a mystery, and we will never know. Our human minds are too insufficient to comprehend such thoughts.
The Big Bang theory is founded off of the laws of physics and constructed through calculations.
The common idea of creationism is from a book that we know little about written thousands of years ago. This book also includes many stories that we are sure are not true. It defies the laws of physics, makes little sense, has been almost disproven many, many times.
Drace, are you saying that anything is possible and that we don't have the ability to decide what is true? I'm not sure I get your view on this.
Whether religiously based or not, creation implies a "creator" and most people consider this creator to be a god of some sort. While this certainly doesn't have to be the case, that is the predominant viewpoint held by the vast majority of creationists. Creation is equated to a religious view because of this predominance of thought and because it clearly does not fit into what we call "science."
@pyro: We know how the Earth was created as much as we know that we exist (by that I mean our concept of knowledge may be flawed but it is relatively self-coherent). The formation of planets and stars is quite well understood by physicists, as is the life span of a star since we have lots and lots to look at. That's the nice thing about having super powerful telescopes - we can essentially look back in time millions and billions of years!
Well, I can certainly appreciate trying to steer creation away from religion to try to lend it more credence, but it becomes an odd paradox. Creation, as I said earlier, implies a creator. The full argument asserts that everything must have come from something and the creator made everything. Whether or not you call this creator a god and worship it doesn't matter in the end because the creation argument runs into the same problem: The logic applied to "rove" creation just stops at the creator, who has to not be affected by the laws of causation. It seems to me to be nothing more than an ad-hoc theory at best.
