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Freon
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im just opening this topic so that people can have a NICE, FREINDLY place to talk about their beliefs, i Myself believe in evolutionism

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nova2772
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It would seem these people saying this believe that such a position is so weak that it can't stand up to the least bit of scrutiny.


Or maybe they're acnowledging that cldren usually turn to their parents for the truth. Or maybe they want to convert them to their noble cause. They don't do it much now, mostly it was when I was younger.
thepossum
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Okay how about we just throw out all the parts stemming from that dishonesty.


Here you go.

And another one.
samy
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Nova go to bed =P

She makes a good point though; it's hard to believe something different than your parents.

Nielix1324
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the bible is made up of stories that were passed down over hundreds if not thousands of years AUDIBLY, nothing was written down. now consider how much stories change over a few days or weeks wen ppl tell them. Imagine how much it could change over such a massive ammount of time. also, today we have something called fiction. imagination fuels this. what makes you think that imagination couldn't have fueled the "scriptures" that so many worship. Please dont attempt to make the argument that you know god exist because u "feel his presence in your life" because buddhist's, hindu's,and islam's all claim the same thing about their deities, and all religions, though having minor similarities, are excruciatingly different.

samy
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the bible is made up of stories that were passed down over hundreds if not thousands of years AUDIBLY, nothing was written down. now consider how much stories change over a few days or weeks wen ppl tell them. Imagine how much it could change over such a massive ammount of time. also, today we have something called fiction. imagination fuels this. what makes you think that imagination couldn't have fueled the "scriptures" that so many worship. Please dont attempt to make the argument that you know god exist because u "feel his presence in your life" because buddhist's, hindu's,and islam's all claim the same thing about their deities, and all religions, though having minor similarities, are excruciatingly different.


Please notice the fact that your argument will continue to be ignored until you provide a more thought out response preferably with more sources and logical statements.
Nielix1324
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im sorry, i didn't make myself clear to those who are unable to decode my feelings about creationism vs. evolutionism. I believe in evolution. science, logic, and minimal reasoning abilities are all that i need to support this and i will defend this against anyone.

samy
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im sorry, i didn't make myself clear to those who are unable to decode my feelings about creationism vs. evolutionism. I believe in evolution. science, logic, and minimal reasoning abilities are all that i need to support this and i will defend this against anyone.


Never said you were wrong just asked for a tad bit more, uhm, thought behind your posts.
Nielix1324
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i dont think i could have made that any more logical. it's ignorant people that make statements like this illogical. It's not my fault that you are sheep that follow what you were raised to believe without branching out to see the actual truth.

samy
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i dont think i could have made that any more logical. it's ignorant people that make statements like this illogical. It's not my fault that you are sheep that follow what you were raised to believe without branching out to see the actual truth.


"Sigh"

You know we could use another Wolf/Ph atheist...

*grumbles*

Notice all the debate that has gone into other threads like this one you cannot make a blanket statement and expect it to be accepted at face value.
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Please dont attempt to make the argument that you know god exist because u "feel his presence in your life" because buddhist's, hindu's,and islam's all claim the same thing about their deities, and all religions, though having minor similarities, are excruciatingly different.


There are two things wrong with this. First, in traditional Buddhism there is no God, this is also the most common form of Buddhism. Second, most religions have major similarities and very few differences. Like Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, are all the same except for the fact that Christians believe Jesus was the son of God.
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Doesn't it though? Stupid American mainstream church.


All you need is love love love, love is all you need.

...and God.

What? No you don't.
Yes you do.
No you don't....
(Bang! Wham! Pow!)

Here you go.

And another one.


LOL. Was there a point to any of that?

i dont think i could have made that any more logical. it's ignorant people that make statements like this illogical. It's not my fault that you are sheep that follow what you were raised to believe without branching out to see the actual truth.


Maybe a some questions will help focus your thoughts a bit.

1. What evidence has you convinced that evolution is correct?
2. what are the major points that make you think creationism is wrong?
Sporemaniac777
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Does God created Man or Man created God. Without man there never would be any religion. Without man, no god...

Moe
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Unless God is real, then no man would mean God is lazy.

Avorne
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Without wanting to sidetrack too much:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

This is the Riddle of Epicurus. Could someone with faith help answer this for me? As an Atheist I wouldn't be able to...

samy
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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?


As darkness is created because of the creation of light; evil is created with the concept of good (as it is a lack thereof). First off you have to understand that for evil to exist a code of laws (good) must so that we have a concept of evil and can become "evil". Furthermore with the creation of anything a choice between good and evil must exist so that freewill can exist and because God desires us to choose to love him, praise him, support him, etc this freewill exists in us.

By creating good God created evil; by giving us the choice he created freewill.

Gods doesn't exist.
Sience does.
If you belive in a god, prove that he/she is real.
If you do, I can correct it with sience


S"c"ience is actually an abstract concept and doesn't technically exist. I cannot prove my God exists as you cannot prove he doesn't God couldn't be &quotroven". Remember science can be fallible and putting all your faith in it simply isn't intelligent.

PWND religion guys


Clearly there is much more to the debate than the points you posted; try again?
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