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http://fisheaters.com/traditionalcatholicism.html

This has basically everything you need to know about the true religion.

http://www.traditionalcatholicpriest.com/2013/02/27/traditional-popes-vs-new-popes/

And this is exactly what i was talking about the popes.

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MageGrayWolf
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Perhaps they're just spouting this garbage to avoid getting lynched by progress. But history has taught that organisations don't survive and flourish by trying to impede ideals that will flourish either way.


This is probably what going on. I'm sure they can see just as easily as we can how church attendance has dropped. in an attempt to keep relevant who fortunately tend to be more progressive and tolerant.

If this Traditional Catholic church is about not changing and if what we see from KD is any indication, we are talking about a group living in a bubble.
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I just think that you can't suppress thought forever. And thought is reflected in actions. There will come a time where anyone who thinks two men or women marrying is wrong will be just laughed at. And I await that day.


why young knight, that day is already coming upon you. the problem with just the 1st 4 paragraphs (While having some good insight) is just too bigoted for this time. because of this, traditional catholicism will die. those who cling to tradition like a life-raft will be drowned by the very ocean of change they meant to float on. that is what adaptation is for.

-Blade
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why young knight, that day is already coming upon you. the problem with just the 1st 4 paragraphs (While having some good insight) is just too bigoted for this time. because of this, traditional catholicism will die. those who cling to tradition like a life-raft will be drowned by the very ocean of change they meant to float on. that is what adaptation is for.


Deep.

I don't know what exactly we're discussing here, but I do know that I'm not a huge fan of the true-ness of Catholicism. Like, after having to pay your way to heaven and many popes being pimps and living luxurious lives and the way new popes are chosen, the crusades and how brutal they were compared to the arabs....I just don't see it. I don't see, for those who believe, God's hand in that. And if you don't believe in God, even more reason to be like 'wut'.

I dunno, I just don't see the appeal other than you show up like twice and you're 'saved' or whatever.
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why young knight


You're quoting Nerdsoft.
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^Favorite meme.

I don't understand why people ever make threads that even allude to religion. It just ends up being the smarter atheists tearing apart the ignorant religion-folk.

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should we give KD some room to reply on some things?
he ignores most already. i guess if his topic has 5 pages he will only read the last. or maybe 2 because it's his topic.... =/

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It just ends up being the smarter atheists tearing apart the ignorant religion-folk.


I've met up with some religies who can quote Scripture more 'rationally' than others, those who give deeper arguments. Those are more fun to talk to. Not here though.
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Those are more fun to talk to. Not here though

bring them over here. it should make things more interesting and maybe more active? ^^
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I've met up with some religies who can quote Scripture more 'rationally' than others, those who give deeper arguments. Those are more fun to talk to. Not here though.


I would love to meet or just see those people in action. I like to consider myself above the average AG religion schlep, but I don't know everything

bring them over here. it should make things more interesting and maybe more active? ^^


That would be so awesome! It would be great to see an actual debate for once instead of a willing massacre.
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I would love to meet or just see those people in action. I like to consider myself above the average AG religion schlep, but I don't know everything


one things for sure, I love discussing mormonism with you, but there is always a specialist in their own religion. knight, however, probably isn't the "specialist" we are looking for.

That would be so awesome! It would be great to see an actual debate for once instead of a willing massacre.


if they are anything like william lane craig, or eric hovind, then it still will be a massacre. I'm not wanting to debate the people who believe that their particular holy book has scientific truth behind it, because we all know those people are bat-crap crazy. I want a real conversation, and not a snake-oil sales pitch.

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Sorry, I went and am going away so I'm not on much.

What makes it any more true than any other religion?


Because it's the same religion started by Christ, only modified by worthy authorities. Pope John XXIII, fake, Ven. Paul VI, fake, Servant of God John Paul I, fake, St. John Paul II, fake, Emperor Palpat... I mean Benedict XVI, fake, and Francis is FAKE. As I've said, Pope Pius XII was the last valid pope. They have desecrated the sacraments. Brother Diamond has some videos on youtube, but i can't remember their exact names. But he shows the horrors of the disgusting new masses, involving clowns, rockstars, sexual dancers, etc.
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one things for sure, I love discussing mormonism with you, but there is always a specialist in their own religion. knight, however, probably isn't the "specialist" we are looking for.


Hey, I'm more than happy to discuss with you; I do enjoy a good conversation, though I don't know everything...

Because it's the same religion started by Christ, only modified by worthy authorities. Pope John XXIII, fake, Ven. Paul VI, fake, Servant of God John Paul I, fake, St. John Paul II, fake, Emperor Palpat... I mean Benedict XVI, fake, and Francis is FAKE. As I've said, Pope Pius XII was the last valid pope. They have desecrated the sacraments. Brother Diamond has some videos on youtube, but i can't remember their exact names. But he shows the horrors of the disgusting new masses, involving clowns, rockstars, sexual dancers, etc.


Last time I checked He didn't START Catholicism. It started when He left and all the apostles were killed so there was no evangelical guidance so everybody started their own interpretations.
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He started the church, oh wait, atheists know more about my beliefs than me...oh wait again, no they don't! He instituted most of the sacraments and ordained the first Pope.

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He started the church, oh wait, atheists know more about my beliefs than me...oh wait again, no they don't! He instituted most of the sacraments and ordained the first Pope.


Definitely not an atheist. I just don't rely on blind faith for my points and admit when I don't have an answer.

Do share where Christ anoints Peter as the first pope in the bible, because I just got through reading the Old Testament and it never mentioned that anywhere. Especially because Peter was killed not long after Christ left.
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And actually atheists DO know more than most Christians.

I was shown a link to a poll awhile ago and the most scriptural-apt peoples were, in order, the Jews, the Atheists, and then the Mormons. Most of the other conventional christian religions, including Catholics, scored very poorly.

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