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Posted Oct 28, '12 at 7:30am

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,305 posts

Knight

If someone is rewired to think differently, then is their new opinion and agenda just as acceptable to you as the last one you were all "well... it's their decision?" Is it bad to rewire someone to value their life more so as to keep them from killing themselves?

Since people who are depressed to the point of being suicidal are already not in their right mind anymore, I think it is acceptable to try and prevent the passing to act; however, I dislike the idea of rewiring someone to a new state of mind. You left out the possibility to get that person out of depression without having to alter their original personality.

Though, you also have to think that the relatives of a suicidal person are also directly and personally affected in such cases. Looking at a case solely from the depressed one's point of view is not a complete vision of the case.

Embracing death once your life is ending or effectively over doesn't have to be considered cowardice.

I remember the case of a well-known foreign guy in our country, some star or whatnot, shooting himself because he knew he was getting Altzheimer. Was it fear of the disease? Or the wish to leave this earth with some remaining dignity before becoming a rabbling old geezer? I think pride does influence some decisions, and I feel like the doctor's oath to keep people alive as long as possible even against their will is sometimes inappropriate or exxagerated; I understand that life is important and should be valued highly and treasured, but does it make sense to clutch to it even when it's obvious it's leaving you?
 

Posted Oct 28, '12 at 8:32am

partydevil

partydevil

5,130 posts

and I feel like the doctor's oath to keep people alive as long as possible even against their will is sometimes inappropriate or exxagerated;


i'n my country there was a debate some weeks ago that after a certian age we stop giving expensive health care. meaning that old people are not useing donor organs and therapies against cancer and such.

i then there was a little uproar from old people above that age that feld they were left to die while they could stay alive.

you can't lose that part of the oath because it differences per case.
if the patient can't speak for itself anymore. then they have to keep them alive because they don't know what they want.
 

Posted Oct 29, '12 at 11:45am

theawesomnator

theawesomnator

57 posts

Well u shouldn't kill yourself. Just stay strong & believe in yourself.

Don't ever give into those people who hurt you. Just be with people you know who are nice to you.

You ever heard what happened to those who commit suicide in Dante's Inferno? I'm not gonna answer. I'm just gonna let you guys figure it out.

 

Posted Oct 29, '12 at 2:15pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,305 posts

Knight

Aaaaaaand here we go again.

Well u shouldn't kill yourself. Just stay strong & believe in yourself.

Suicidal people wouldn't kill themselves under normal circumstances; but depression is a real affliction, and it won't help to just tell them to not kill themselves stay strong. You gotta actively help them.

You ever heard what happened to those who commit suicide in Dante's Inferno? I'm not gonna answer. I'm just gonna let you guys figure it out.

You think they care where they land? As long as they end their current misery...
 

Posted Oct 29, '12 at 3:11pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,477 posts

Just stay strong

This implies that suicide=weakness.

Don't ever give into those people who hurt you. Just be with people you know who are nice to you.
You ever heard what happened to those who commit suicide in Dante's Inferno?

Your argument is "Tough it out or be turned into a tree"?
 

Posted Oct 30, '12 at 12:10am

Jesussavior

Jesussavior

4 posts

A friend of mine tryed it, a man showed up to help after she ran her car into another car, she was in so much anguish, she said the man who showed up had eyes of perfect love, clamed her so she didnt bleed out, she is a hemophiliac, and nobody who showed up in the middle of nowhere where she was afterwards saw the man she did, but the doctors told her if he had not calmed her she would have bleed out and should have from the gash in her head given her medical condition. Jesus is amazing, sending angels where they need to be=) Just ask him to forgive your sins and save ya and begin a relationship forever today.

 

Posted Oct 30, '12 at 3:37am

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,305 posts

Knight

So.. your friend tried to kill herself. And survived. But the really interesting point is, is she still suicidal or not?

 
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