I�m saying that they don�t have the brains or a conscience to know its wrong

What is wrong about it, if it is not unnatural?

What percentage of the monkey population is actually performs these acts? And where are you getting your info?

What percentage of the monkey population is actually performs these acts? And where are you getting your info?

The Bonobo are famous for all sorts of sex things, they live in a Maternal society where women rule and sex is used for about everything, from greeting to wars.

Wikipedia would probably be the easiest source, but it is really common knowledge about the animal.

You can observe all types of  behaviors in any animal or human but that does not make it normal behavior.  We see deviant behavior in humans all the time.  This does not make it natural. And Wikipedia is not a scientific journal and should not be used as a source to find ‘facts’

You can observe all types of  behaviors in any animal or human but that does not make it normal behavior.

If it occurs without outside prompting on a statistically significant basis, it's normal.

*facepalm*

We see deviant behavior in humans all the time.  This does not make it natural.

Yes it does.

And Wikipedia is not a scientific journal and should not be used as a source to find �facts�

Yes, but you can always check their sources.

And, we don't feel like wasting our time dredging up extremely good sources for something which I doubt you spent 2 minutes looking at.

But is it statistically significant? This is the question you’re not answering.  And if you are not going to going to ‘waste your time’ finding proper sources, why point me to an improper one?
But my larger point earlier was that we as humans do have consciences and are not slaves to our instincts.  This is what separates up from animals.  Including the Bonobo!

But is it statistically significant?

I'd consider 3-10% statistically significant.

And if you are not going to going to �waste your time� finding proper sources, why point me to an improper one?

It's not improper. Probably 99% of all the stuff on there is accurate. It's just not accepted because people -can- change things.

Again, you can always check their sources if you're unsure about a claim.

But my larger point earlier was that we as humans do have consciences and are not slaves to our instincts. 

And?

What about homosexuality is wrong so that we must avoid it?

You can observe all types of  behaviors in any animal or human but that does not make it normal behavior.  We see deviant behavior in humans all the time.  This does not make it natural. And Wikipedia is not a scientific journal and should not be used as a source to find â��factsâ��

Actually, this kind of stuff happens all the time with Bonobos. They pretty much have sex for absolutely everything they do, it isn't deviant behavior but something that they do all the time.

Bonobo Sex and Society, from Scientific America, I think. Skip to the part "Make love, not war" and do some reading. You did ask for a scientific reading, and logically it would have a ton of reading to do.

Females also mate with females, males with males, really, they make with anything that moves.

But is it statistically significant? This is the question youâ��re not answering.  And if you are not going to going to â��waste your timeâ�� finding proper sources, why point me to an improper one?

Oh okay. Here you go.

But my larger point earlier was that we as humans do have consciences and are not slaves to our instincts.  This is what separates up from animals.  Including the Bonobo!

Like the link said, these animals are intelligent, sensitive, emotional, and very close to humans. They aren't pure instinct. Also, you haven't proven that homosexuality is wrong yet, so why should our conscience tell us it's wrong? Mine doesn't.