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toemas
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I think homosexuality is totally wrong and unnatural, what do you think?

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I think homosexuality is a disease. Humans have two basic instincts:
1 - Survival.
2 - Reproduce.

If someone wants to commit suicide, is prevented from doing so and provides him psychological assistance.
For homosexual people, it should be the same. They are attempting against human nature, attempting against reproduction. Their mind is working incorrectly. They must be treated.


so rubbing my belly is also against nature? because it does nothing based on those 2 instincts. even if your gay you can still reproduce and it is not a choice. comitting suicide is a choice and the reason you get psychological assistance is that you can hurt yourself. being gay doesnt hurt yourself or the people around you (being homophobic does though).

besides, you think only gays dont have children? there are many streight couples who dont want to have children but im guessing you dont think they have a psychological problem?

I agree, Men/Women were not made to Have Sex with the same Gender, It is against the laws of nature. People who say that animals do it and think it's natural, well some animals suck blood, Would that be natural in a human?


so what is natural? can you tell me? if you want to know if something is natural or not you HAVE to look at animals because if not you will have to look only at humans. and by that you can easily say that having green eyes or having red hair is also unatural. besides, sucking blood is something essential for the animals who do that and is not essential to us. not to mention being gay doesnt hurt anybody unlike sucking blood.

I... sort of agree with you there. It is a disease, but some people are made this way they don't choose. It is Unnatural, I think that it probably is some type of Mental disease but it is most likely Untreatable. So we're just gonna live with it. We can't kill them cause we'd be horrible people if we did that.


nah... people would be MORE horibble if they would do that. not accepting the fact that being gay isnt a desease is the same as not accepting their existance or their right to exist. it is painful and just because your conscience is clean doesnt mean your not hurting other people.

That's because Straight people are the only ones who can have babies. And most are normal, well people. 1 out of every 50 kids is Gay.


no definitely not (and this is also the reason why people hate gays. they used to think they have sex with the opposite gender to hide their identity and that is what causes gay children). its not SOME people are made this way. they all are. also, where did you get those stats from? id like to see a source.

Because if the first people were Gay, We wouldn't exist.


we would. god could simply tell them to reproduce although they are gay (and hey, who knows THAT isnt the truth? they only had each other and when you are the only humans in the world youd probably have sex with eachother). besides, we wouldnt exist if one of them didnt have the will to have sex. but that is a horibble sin in most religions isnt it? there are many things that if addam or eve had we wouldnt exist but people choose to look at this (probably because of their phobia).

Yet Gayness is also a Psychological problem, it's not a natural instinct.


its not a psychological problem. look it up. everything that isnt an instinct is a psychological problem? look at yourself, im sure you will find o****less things that are not based on insticts.

That IS true, but Sex between Man and Man, or Woman and Woman is bad, Sex is for Reproduction not expression is love, Not every people who love each other have sex, but everyone who has sex love each other (Mostly anyway)


also wrong. who are you to tell us what the reason for sex is? you think animals (or even addam and eve) knew that sex makes babies? sex is just for physical pleasure and thats it. you will have sex with someone you find attractive. if sex is for reproduction that means that doing it alone is also bad (and trust me. we can all agree that MOST humans do it). besides, what IS bad? because you didnt explain that.

WRONG Just because two people of the same sex love each other doesn't mean their psychotic/deformed but I will say that sex between two genders is wrong and is a Psychological problem.


again why? you only say what you think but you never explain why.

A normal state in the human mind is Straight, Thus it is a MENTAL PROBLEM not Disease.


again, a normal state of a human mind is to like junkfood. i doubt any of you would say that not liking junkfood is a mental problem. something is only a problem when it hurts you or others. once again, WHAT IS a problem?

No I mean, first of all A Man doesn't have the proper organs to actually give birth, and a Woman has no sperm. Also a Homosexual man wouldn't have sex with a woman, That was my point.


he would if he had to. the world could easily survive even if all of us were gay.

Now how is #2 Natural though?


since when natural=good?

really, people keep telling the "its not natrual" excuse. when its countered they say "animals eat their children, is that good?"
and then they just go back to the natural excuse.
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It looks like Freakenstein deleted my comment that said:
ARE YOU ALL STUPID ITS WRONG !!!
He told me I need to back it up so here it is:
I think its wrong becausewhen animals do it its science. When people do it its not. Its them trying to do something they can't in another way.

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He told me I need to back it up so here it is:
I think its wrong becausewhen animals do it its science. When people do it its not. Its them trying to do something they can't in another way.


If he told you to back it up, why didn't you?
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Still unsubstantiated, but will be kept due to having a reason and being an acceptable thought process.

I think its wrong because when animals do it its science. When people do it its not.


So now the counter-argument. How is human homosexuality not science? Are humans absolved of such classification when it comes to life? We clearly are and have relatives in the biosphere, why are we the exception?

Its them trying to do something they can't in another way.


I'm pretty sure not only I am confused with this sentence. Can you please explain further?
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I'm pretty sure not only I am confused with this sentence. Can you please explain further?


my guess is that they are trying to have sex in a different way. which is stupid since **** sex isnt just common in streight couples im also pretty sure it was discovered by a streight couple XD
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my guess is that they are trying to have sex in a different way. which is stupid since **** sex isnt just common in streight couples im also pretty sure it was discovered by a streight couple XD


sorry for double (me need to practice enrish). what i meant is that NOT ONLY (i never knew ana l is a bad word ) it is common in streight couples a streight couple discovered it.
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everyone who thinks homosexuality is right is simply OUT OF HIS MIND. every creature has a simple way to live, and a human has a certain feeling to love the other sex, NOT to love your own sex, that's just grouse.

if someone gets a feeling that he wants to kiss his own sex, or some other sexual act, i suggest that he starts to change his ways, because he definitely has something unnaturally weird in his heart.

and those who say that some animals do it so why don't we, that's because god made them that way, and we humans do not love our own sex because its against nature and causes tons of problems.

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and those who say that some animals do it so why don't we, that's because god made them that way, and we humans do not love our own sex because its against nature and causes tons of problems.


lol you contradict (spelled wrong?) yourself. if god made animals gay how can you say he didnt make some of us gay? we obviously have some gays among us. just another excuse to why homphobia is normal
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A normal state in the human mind is Straight, Thus it is a MENTAL PROBLEM not Disease.


You're the one who made the statement "I... sort of agree with you there. It is a disease, but some people are made this way they don't choose." At least keep your own story straight. (no pun intended)

As for it being a MENTAL PROBLEM, no You're Wrong. The definition of mental illness as stated by mayoclinic.com

"Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions â" disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors.

Many people have mental health concerns from time to time. But a mental health concern becomes a mental illness when signs and symptoms cause frequent stress and affect your ability to function. A mental illness can make you miserable and can cause problems in your daily life, such as at work or in relationships. In most cases, mental illness symptoms can be managed with a combination of medications and counseling (psychotherapy)."

Thus for it to classify as a mental illness ie a mental it would result in problems with the person's daily life in some way. Since homosexuality does not do this, it would not classify as a mental problem.
Seeing as You will likely try and pull "it interferes with their ability to have a relationship with women" or some tripe along those lines. This makes no matter what so ever. The relationships they desire to have with those they feel attracted to can still be perfectly functional and fulfilling ones.

Also I couldn't help to notice that you seemed to ignore the whole point about sexuality being s spectrum, as such there is no default to sexual preference.

No I mean, first of all A Man doesn't have the proper organs to actually give birth, and a Woman has no sperm. Also a Homosexual man wouldn't have sex with a woman, That was my point.


And your point is still pointless. A man can donate sperm or have a willing surrogate in order to have a child and a woman can still go to a sperm bank and get pregnant from the selection they have there. Further more adoption is still a viable solution (assuming some jack wad didn't make it so homosexual couples couldn't adopt) and not a bad.
Overall your argument was they couldn't have kids, while this simply is not true. Just because it's not the way you would like for them to have kids doesn't mean jack.

Now how is #2 Natural though?


What the hell does it matter? And again if natural is so important what the hell are you doing on the internet? What the hell is so natural about communicating over cyberspace? Just in case this point is going over your head, just because something isn't natural doesn't make it wrong.

It did not drop to two it started with 2.


No it didn't, cue video When I said it has never dropped below 10,000 that means it could never have been below that number at any point in human existence. The genetic diversity in humans simply wouldn't allow for it.

And the Diversity, When the tower to reach heaven was being built, God separated humans with skin color and languages.


Goddidit and MAGIC is not a valid argument. Even a basic understanding of how languages arose completely obliterates this tripe.

A normal state in the human mind is Straight, Thus it is a MENTAL PROBLEM not Disease.


To retread in simpler word, something not being normal does not a mental problem make.

By such a definition we could say Einstein's genius wasn't normal, thus a mental problem. Hell being a genius would at least come closer to classifying as a mental illness then homosexuality given that it can cause problems with relating to others.


I think its wrong becausewhen animals do it its science. When people do it its not. Its them trying to do something they can't in another way.


Ummm... I'm not following.

First off
Science; the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment - Oxford Dictionary.

Pretty sure when other animals get it on they really don't give a **** about that. They are likely thinking "This feels GGGOOOOD!"

When people do it they also often do it because it feels GGGGOOOOD! Though humans have been known to do it because of science (I refer you to episode 3 of Curiosity on Discovery Channel titled "why is sex fun?" as an example of this.) But humans and animals can do it as a means of social bonding (today in humans this is usually reserved for expressions of love.)

Finally they are fully capable of doing it with one another whether it be ****, oral, strap ons, or mutual masturbation. There are plenty of ways to go about having sex.
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NOT to love your own sex, that's just grouse.


Glad to see the opposing side have resorted to some heavy hitting points (for 5 year olds) as to why it's wrong.

Considering some of the arguments being put forth, this seems relevant.
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http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/americanpolak/God_Hates_***s_12-25-2002-1.jpg
Its either anti smoking or anti homo
either way,
its against men stick an elongated object in their mouth

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This
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http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/02/slide278055161large.jpg

You do realize that one-word posts constitute spam, right? And that the Westboro Baptist Church... sorry, 'God' hates pretty much everyone according to them?

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realy punisher?
your on the side of westboro? i didn't think you would be that low. i thought more of you then those suckers.

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if someone gets a feeling that he wants to kiss his own sex, or some other sexual act, i suggest that he starts to change his ways, because he definitely has something unnaturally weird in his heart.

Dude, the heart is a stupid muscle pump..
Also, how can homosexuality not be natural if it occurs everywhere in nature? Homosexuality in the animal kingdom is probably far older than even the earliest ancestor of humans..

You know what is a real abomination, a serious offense to nature? Chihuahuas, pugs and the like. Not only are they goddarn ugly, but a chihuahua will break his legs by jumping from a chair/steps. This is simply pityful...
Oh, and DogTV too.

Considering some of the arguments being put forth, this seems relevant.

I like #5.. I mean if Las Vegas marriages are legal, everything's legal, right? :P
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