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I made notes as I watched the video, I'm sure I missed loads of points that should be made. Mostly due to just not having the time to research the loads of claims being made in this film.
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Okay first off imediantly in the video I need to point out that ufo footage is incredibly easy to fake or have objects mistaken for aliens. For example with rods, camera can only capture a representation of what they see. So with insects and bird flying about, a camera will pick these up as streaks across the picture.
Another thing to point out UFO doesn't necessarily mean alien. All it means is an object that is flying that is unidentfied (unidentfied flying object aka UFO). We would have to identify and confirm these ufos as alien space craft, in which case they would cease to be classified as ufos. So long as they are ufos they are not evidence of alien visitation.
Some of the things this video is claiming to be ufos are clearly just planes.
Not big on how the video insiuates that what they are claiming was already intuitivly known. Making such a claim hurts it's credntials as evidence for ufos.
At 4:40 we see a message from NASA astronuat claiming to have just seen an alien spacecraft. There are a number of phenomena in space that woudl need to be taken into account before jumping to such a conclusion. Claiming that this is evidence just because it's a statment made by an astronuat is nothing more than appeal to athority.
The images following is made impossible to tell if this was what the astronuat saw or if it's just another random video of an out of focus spot that could be virtualy anything.
At 5:08 we have yet another attempt to make an appeal to authority. The quote is often attributed to General Douglas MacArthur which goes as such "The nations of the world will have to unite, for the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets." This is also a rather interesting quote as it could esentially be a form of quote mining. MacArthur never actually made this statement per say, it's an extrapolated statement from a number of commmets he had made at different points. Here is a link on the subject on snopes.
So far I'm hardly five minute in and the credibility of this video is seriously lacking, but as I said i will continue to watch.
The Battle of Los Angeles reports of extraterrestial spacecraft is eniterly based on speculation made by the media.
About 14:00 in. Numerous times this video has made the claim that eye wittness reports are the most reliable as anyone actualy analizing the situations are just coving things up. This seem to do nothing more than speak to paranoina. Eye wittness reports of events often tend to be the least creidble forms of evidence, which so far seems to be the only actual evidence the video has provided. Given such credibility, it's the eye wittness testimony that needs to be taken with skepticism.
It makes mention of aliens being seen all over. It needs to be pointed out that these mass sightings only began to become wide spread when stories of such things became wide spread. In short we were given a preconditions bias to see various unknown objects and phenomina in the sky as aliens.
17:48 Fox News report, U-F-O or what? lol Fox New you are so much fail.
Seeing as this is further touching on rods here is photographic evidence that they are nothing but bugs and birds.
Here we see rods.
In an image moments later we see that these flying "rods" in less than rod like form.
At about 21:00 they start talking about a space craft with a broken tether and claiming that the other objects around the tether are ufos. but even in there own clip the astronuats state that they had debris around them.
Oh and the claim of the tether being a functional ruler is not accurate. The objects could be much closer or further to the ship then preceived, making the tether useless as a messuring device. The appearance of being behind the tether can be nothing more than an optical illusion.
OKay about 31:50 in we have been getting clips of various people who have worked for teh government claiming to know that these black ops missions (making the presumsion they involve alines) exist. but at the marking I mention the guy flat out states we are not being offered evidence of any such alien encounters. His claim is that it's not because it simply doesn't exist, but because of soem massive cover up. Again we are forced to buy the existence of a massive global cover up taking place across multiple government around the world, involving hundreds, possibly even thousands of people. Rather than these things simply don't exist and these seceret operations are unrelated.
33:36 If I'm not to mistaken weren't these Roswell symbols long debunked?
34:46 That doesn't look alien at all.
Okay about 40 minutes in all these people talking aren't really offering anything to back their claims. This goes for prettymuch every clip of someone speaking thus far.
Around the 52 minute4 mark. They are now claiming that we have alien structures on the moon and Mars. Given the quality of these images being displayed in this video we could be looking at almost anything. It seems to me paradolia is playing a large part here.
About an hour in. I was noticing that when someone in an official possition in this video states that it's not an alien, it's a cover up. But when they say it is an alien (usually with an unbacked assertion) we are to treat them as credible. This appear to be confirmation bias.
100 we get pleas to emotion even with violin music included.
100 Most of this talk of weaponizing space for aliens is based on preemtive hypothetical situations. The rest falls under assertion. Though it's rather laughable considering this would be like cavemen weaponizing to defend themselves again a modern military.
100 It sounds like I'm listening to a 50s propaganda film. Why video, why? Can't really say much more since it's not really saying much of anything to it's point.
100 not sure what hydrogen fuel cells has to do with aliens.
100 claims to global consperiacy again. Not really giving evidence to aliens, it's just NWO bs.
Glad to see it has 7 minutes of credits I can skip.
It really didn't provide anything convencing. It made loads of statements, many of which are debunked, many of which are unbacked. It also used a number of fallacies.
Like I said. You people wont believe anything until its too late.
As stated before for this claim to be believe it needs evidence. The video hardly provided any such thing that could be called evidence. What little could possibly be called evidence is some of the least reliable source of evidence. For an incredible claim like aliens not only visiting Earth but taking over, needs equally incredible evidence.
This video has high ranking people charged with the defense of the USofA claiming it is so.
It doesn't matter that they are high ranking or not. Relying on the fact that they are high ranking thus what they say is correct is just an appeal to authority fallacy, not evidence.
The claims these people are making still needs to be backed.
It was all well and good once upon a time when a hillbilly made these claims, at that time your ilk would say who are these people? I wont believe until credible people say it is so.
Again it doesn't matter if they are hillbillies or not.
Well this tape and the disclosure project show DOZENS of credible people from our esteemed astronauts to brigadier generals and SAC commanders saying its true.
Yet again appeal to authority.
It's not the person making the claim that's important but the evidence supporting that claim.
Now you wont believe them. One dummy in this thread cannot even be bothered to watch the whole thing, not even 1/3 of it yet he continues to flap his jaws like he knows more than these people.
Sorry, but you don't. None of you do.
It's not about that at all. The problem is these people who know more aren't backing up what they are flapping there jaw about.
Not only that but you would take the opinion and word over an internet poster rather than people like Edgar Mitchell and James Corso, and the list goes on.
Edgar Mitchell American pilot, engineer and NASA astronaut. Believes that he was cured of cancer through remote healing. Has made the statement "90 percent sure that many of the thousands of unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, recorded since the 1940s, belong to visitors from other planets" In short such a statement amounts to,
Philip James Corso (1915-1998) Lieutenant Colonel in the US army. Wrote the book "The Day After Roswell". The claims made in the book are left unsupported.
Dont bother talking because everything you said is handled in the video you wont watch.
I watched that whole thing, no what was stated wasn't handled by that video.
have fun in life lemmings.
Moron.
Throwing out insults won't change people's minds or support your argument.