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kiddslayer12
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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.

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314d1
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i beleive its called faith, according to wikipedia


And faith is something you have in something that doesn't exist, according to me and Bart Simpson.

Faith is all and good, but if you are going to burn someone at the steak for not having the same then you are in trouble. Same thing if you are going to force your bigoted views on someone, such as in the case of abortion, homosexuals, and scientific advancement.
nevetsthereaper
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hahahah, keep it on topic, i didn't take a side. this time.

314d1
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If no one minds, I will bring up a point.

I was reading a thing on the mafia, and found the "ten cammandments" for there group. Having read them, I think there actually more moral than the Christians... Your opinions?


1. No one can present himself directly to another of our friends. There must be a third person to do it.

2. Never look at the wives of friends.

3. Never be seen with cops.

4. Don't go to pubs and clubs.

5. Always being available for Cosa Nostra is a duty - even if your wife is about to give birth.

6. Appointments must absolutely be respected.

7. Wives must be treated with respect.

8. When asked for any information, the answer must be the truth.

9. Money cannot be appropriated if it belongs to others or to other families.

10. People who can't be part of Cosa Nostra: anyone who has a close relative in the police, anyone with a two-timing relative in the family, anyone who behaves badly and doesn't hold to moral values.

nevetsthereaper
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sounds good to me. if they ever open up as a real church let me know.

314d1
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sounds good to me. if they ever open up as a real church let me know.


There the Mafia, not a religion. Those were alleged codes of conducts, not an actual ten commandments...
nevetsthereaper
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just going off what you had stated.

314d1
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What I stated was

I was reading a thing on the mafia

Bold added...

nevetsthereaper
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a bit touchy, perhaps. here, restated, if the mafia ever decides to become a religion, let me know.

popopowerst
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Wow, u people need to calm down. Anyways, here's where I stand: I am an atheist. HOWEVER, I do believe in God. I do not WORSHIP God. But I believe in him. I believe in all overlords and gods. But I don't worship any.

Avorne
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You're not an Atheist then - I think you're an agnostic.

MageGrayWolf
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Wow, u people need to calm down. Anyways, here's where I stand: I am an atheist. HOWEVER, I do believe in God. I do not WORSHIP God. But I believe in him. I believe in all overlords and gods. But I don't worship any.


The very definition of atheist is without belief in a deity. So claiming a belief in a deity makes you a theist.
Joe96
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I too am a Christian, kidslayer, but i think God created the big bang and evolution and all that other stuff.

adios194
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You're not an Atheist then - I think you're an agnostic.

Very well could be, agnostic by definition is the belief in a God, but without certainty. In other words, you believe in God, but you can't decide which one it is.
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Very well could be, agnostic by definition is the belief in a God, but without certainty. In other words, you believe in God, but you can't decide which one it is.

FAIL - agnosticism has nothing to do with belief. It says we can't prove or disprove gods existence, but doesn't state anything else otherwise.
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FAIL - agnosticism has nothing to do with belief. It says we can't prove or disprove gods existence, but doesn't state anything else otherwise.


gnostic -- I know

agnostic -- I don't know

gnostic atheist: I know god doesn't exist so I don't believe in him

agnostic atheist: I don't know whether god exists or not, but I don't believe in him.

There you go. You are agnostic atheist, and that is your definition.
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