ForumsWEPR[nec]Christianity vs Atheism

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kiddslayer12
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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.

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cowmaster1
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Just how the earth was formed at the outset is not certainly known.

this is the first sentence of the link stating they are not sure how it started. So there still no explaination of how it started

This was directed to something earlier


my bad, I didn't mean for the ignorant part to be in the quote lol
pHacon
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But that rock and iron and stuff had to have come from something.


Created in stars that went supernova, those stars were made from hydrogen and helium, and before you say anything about that, it's called the Big Bang, which takes us back into the realm of "I don't believe it could have happened, so it didn't."

Same argument could be used for God... Kinda worthless debating theology.
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It was dust from the nebula that ended up making our solar system. Iron and silicon are basic elements on the periodic table - they're everywhere. The other dust and rock were mostly simple compounds or other elements, which are also common. They clumped together.

The atoms making up the iron and silicon and dust and rock came from the Big Bang or however the Universe started, and assembled over time.

314d1
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i am a strong christian i believe in my lord that god created the universe but maybe he used the big bang to do it i also believe that the first atheists felt abandoned by god and forgot about him the same with other religons the felt abandoned and createed something to fill the void.


No offense, but you assume far to much with that statement. That is horribly far off course. There is no proof for any deity, thus atheist. There WAS no proof for other things, thus religion.
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i am a strong christian i believe in my lord that god created the universe but maybe he used the big bang to do it i also believe that the first atheists felt abandoned by god and forgot about him the same with other religons the felt abandoned and createed something to fill the void.


And I am a strong atheist who says you're delusional. It is far better not to believe than to believe. Without a creed I have true free will and do not fear divine wrath or punishment. I am not restricted in my deeds and I do good because I believe it is the right things to do, not because I am told it is right. In truth who's life is the more empty? The man who sees the world and asks how to change it for the better; or the man who sees the world and decides freely to change it for the better.
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understand what you are saying some atheist do come to atheism now adays but tell me when did atheism start?


It's always been around. There have always been those who questioned religion and it's practices.
Avorne
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By default, Atheism has always existed. Even if the first humans had some form of religion - they were born without it.

wolf1991
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i do not do good deeeds out of fear but out of love for my creator like you love your creators like you mother and father


You are still coerced. I however am not.
wolf1991
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the first human was not born but created from dust and his wife from his rib yes god gave them fre wil but they were created knowing him


Creationism is a lie. Do you want me to show you a video proving this?
Avorne
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Prove it! Prove that your particular sky-fairy created us all from DUST! Not using your Bible either. I have proof (fossil records, DNA evidence, etc) that we evolved from an earlier primate.

CommanderDude7
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didn't we tecnicly come from star dust? since planet was made from nebula along with the sun.

Avorne
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i have no proof but how do you now god didnt created the first "man" was not this primate or that satan created this so called evidence


Because neither God nor Satan exist. or at least that is the logical assumption until you prove (WITH EVIDENCE) otherwise. And anyway, your bible says God created man - not 'God created some ancestors for Man then thought "Time for a hardware update"'.
314d1
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i have no proof but how do you now god didnt created the first "man" was not this primate or that satan created this so called evidence


It says we were created in gods form, so unless god changed his scull we theoretically would have stayed the same.

...You always blame Satan for science, don't you?
CommanderDude7
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and if we came from star dust doesn't that mean that part of the creation story is true?

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