I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
My point is that the big bang theory has enough accompanying fact for me to be able to reject the idea of an immovable mover [god(s)] creating the universe simply because it felt like it.
Ok then well for me i thing christianity has enough accompaning facts that i belive that God created the big bang bec. YOU CAN'T CREAT NOTHING FROM SOMETHING IN THE worldd of science, Where did the matter come from? I say God you say "IDK?" So congradulations, we have made no progress now bec. of unwilingness to comprimise
Ok then well for me i thing christianity has enough accompaning facts that i belive that God created the big bang bec. YOU CAN'T CREAT NOTHING FROM SOMETHING IN THE worldd of science, Where did the matter come from? I say God you say "IDK?" So congradulations, we have made no progress now bec. of unwilingness to comprimise
Progress for making things up? "Hey Einstein how does time work?" "IDK, lets say faeries do it!" "Good thing we are making progress!"...
Then were did god come from? Use that answer and apply it to matter and viola! That how matter got here.
*A wile ago*
You: Well how does gravity work? Me: IDK! You: Well lets compromise and say god does it!
That is not how science works... Making things up gets us no were
YOU CAN'T CREAT NOTHING FROM SOMETHING IN THE worldd of science, Where did the matter come from?
Did you look on ANY of the other posts on this forum... or perhaps even look up a wiki article on the big bang. Because if you had you wouldnt have written this comment. Research a little before saying things that are not true.
wow your so smart i did alot of reasearch, and i fnd some thing out, the big bang theory is just as credible as God, for there is no proof that either happened or exsisted/esist. Some scientist beilive in this thoery and have (dare i say it) FAITH in it, but isn't that frowned upon in the scientific would, faith in osmething that cannot be prooven? Well it is faith because even the smartest minds in the world can't come up with a credible anwser to any of the big bang theory, just assumptions, guesses, and a whole lot of different opinions about matter coming from somewhere unkown. So before you say im saying things that are not true, why don't you tell me what is true if you can find anything
Ok then well for me i thing christianity has enough accompaning facts that i belive that God created the big bang
Give me one fact that proves christianity. Just one. That's all i'm asking for. One little bit of empirical evidence that proves christianity is right. or any other religion for that matter.
Give me one fact that proves christianity. Just one. That's all i'm asking for. One little bit of empirical evidence that proves christianity is right. or any other religion for that matter.
I believe in it so it's right to me; the fact is that most of the world could care less about empirical evidence; talk emotions and feelings then you have people's attention. Arguing religion involves arguing against an individual not arguing against the religion itself.
So before you say im saying things that are not true, why don't you tell me what is true if you can find anything
Ah I see... you are looking for ME to answer your questions? Sounds like someone who believes in god for no reason other than they cant handle a life without answers. And I doubt very much that you did any research on the big bang if you say...
the big bang theory is just as credible as God, for there is no proof that either happened or exsisted/esist.
The big bang IS a "theory" with a lot of evidence behind it that points towards the event but it is still a theory and just one among many. Chritianity is a faith with NO evidence behind it and its also not a "theory" is it! There is a difference. Dont believe the big bang... fine. But why do you suddenly use this as an excuse to believe christianity.
you guys misinterpert me, i am a science lover myself, i belive gravity is scientifically proven, and that god isn't holding us to the earth, but i do beilive that god created the explosion that created the earth, that created the gravity, i belive he set this stuff up indirectly, not just making all the planets at once and then creating animals and stiking them in earth, thats nonsense, i also beilive in evelution, so by no means am i a blind following christain. but for the unkown i think athiest and christians should agree that god did it, and that we should both try to prove this wrong be reaserching it and learning more about the universe, but until we find another anwser, or never find another anwser, we could just agree on sayiing god did it as a temorary, or to some a pernament explanation.
Arguing religion involves arguing against an individual not arguing against the religion itself.
Sorry for the duble post, but this is simply not true. When a huge amount of people all follow different denominations of the same monotheistic faith and kill each other because they believe their particular branch of the religion is more correct I think we have a right to question your beliefs.
i think athiest and christians should agree that god did it
How about we agree that neither of us actually knows.
Sorry for the duble post, but this is simply not true. When a huge amount of people all follow different denominations of the same monotheistic faith and kill each other because they believe their particular branch of the religion is more correct I think we have a right to question your beliefs.
You didn't understand what I wrote; it's like poker you don't play your cards you play the person across the table from you. You have to know them, understand them, and be able to change what they think. You can't argue "facts" when debating religion it just ends up pissing people off and making everyone look like an idiot to the other side.
How about we agree that neither of us actually knows.
dude perfect, i agree to that completaly just i know that many christans wont except that. Is it ok for me to have faith that God did it? Just as long as i admit i have no proof of it and don't know it for a fact? As for questioning my faith, go ahead, i recomend it, i even recomend questioning your own belifs time to time, thats whats keeps us on the road to anwsers and not a society where openmindedness is frowned upon.
Why can't we work together? Atheist all you have to do is agree that god created the big bang, and christains will except that we evolved from apes.
NO. You can NOT force people to believe in something. You can not take a science book and change it so it says God created the universe instead of the big bang.
How about you theists just accept that the big bang created the universe until it is proven God was responsible?
Don't suggest theists negotiate on theist terms when theists can just as easily negotiate on atheist terms.
Soo.... if it is a theory it is not a fact, there could be supporting facts but not enough to 100% prove it meaning it is not a fact, All you did was say what a theory is, that doesn't mean anything bec. by your def. it still isn't a fact.
The Big Bang is more factual than God's creationism.
Ok then well for me i thing christianity has enough accompaning facts that i belive that God created the big bang bec. YOU CAN'T CREAT NOTHING FROM SOMETHING IN THE worldd of science, Where did the matter come from? I say God you say "IDK?" So congradulations, we have made no progress now bec. of unwilingness to comprimise
SCIENCE IS NOT BUILT OFF OF COMPROMISES. Science is built off research and tests.
The Big Bang is hardly any more credible than creationism, but it is more credible. Science books don't teach the big bang as if it was fact (or they shouldn't), but as one of many theories. The reason science books don't include creationism is because there is absolutely nothing to support creationism at all within the realms of science.
You believe the principles that sciences claims are true. Gravity, believe it or not, is a theory. Evolution, is a theory. The Big Bang, is a theory. They makes loads of sense and are widely accepted. We can prove these things exist, but we might be able to prove these things don't exist, too.
Haha gravity is a law, not a theory, that means it is a fact.
