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kiddslayer12
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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.

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314d1
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He wanted to do it through a human to put things in a little more perspective. But Judas cowed out.


Could you please point out were it says that, as my verse does not have it. It is like with the snake, it says no were that he is Satan. If we can just fill in whatever answer we want, then I say that god is a cocktail waitress who drinks in her spare time.

"As a tyrant he would be killed" Your words. And anyway, how are you going to chain down God?


Looks like I did say that. Probably with steel, if you brought a bit of it to the people who wrote the Bible they would probably consider it magic enough to take down god.
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And anyway, how are you going to chain down God?


Yeah... The only place I can recall of that occurring is in Norse mythology, the wolf Fenrir to be exact, and those chains were made of the roots of the tree of existence itself. Fenrir breaks them and kills Odin at Ragnarok, anyways.

There are probably more, but I can't think of any off of the top of my head, and it's a little off topic.
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Could you please point out were it says that, as my verse does not have it. It is like with the snake, it says no were that he is Satan. If we can just fill in whatever answer we want, then I say that god is a cocktail waitress who drinks in her spare time.


Oh well. If you need to see it that's fine. Say I'm lying or something but I'm not.
Looks like I did say that. Probably with steel, if you brought a bit of it to the people who wrote the Bible they would probably consider it magic enough to take down god.


If God was proven as a fact he would know all, including your intentions.
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Yeah... The only place I can recall of that occurring is in Norse mythology, the wolf Fenrir to be exact, and those chains were made of the roots of the tree of existence itself. Fenrir breaks them and kills Odin at Ragnarok, anyways.

There are probably more, but I can't think of any off of the top of my head, and it's a little off topic.



Well the good ol' Greek smithy god got one of the gods in a trap throne, that is how he got his wife.

And then there was the time when the same smithy used similar chains when he caught his wife cheating on him.

And then Cronus, who was cut up and thrown into a pit.

Then there was Satan, who was throne into a pit.

That is all I can think off the top of my head...
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Then there was Satan, who was throne into a pit.


But was he CHAINED?!? lol
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Ah, yes... Greek mythology, Hephaestus received Aphrodite by the kindness of his mother.

Zeus was also chained down, but freed by his old allies the hundred-handers.

I'd always thought Kronos was only castrated...

Satan isn't a god, though, he was an angel.

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If God was proven as a fact he would know all, including your intentions.


True, but that will not help him dodge bullets.

Oh well. If you need to see it that's fine. Say I'm lying or something but I'm not.


God is a cocktail waitress. If you need to see were it says it, fine. Say I'm lying or something but I'm not.

Pray louder! He is a god! Maybe he is day-dreaming or relieving himself, or perhaps he's gone off on a trip! Or maybe he's sleeping, and you've got to wake him up! 1 Kings 18:27

This verse does not say that god was watching porn, does it? Using your logic I could assume that he was. Yes, this verse was kind of taken from context, but it only an example.
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True, but that will not help him dodge bullets.


He knows you're coming. He STOPS you from coming. Do you understand what I am saying.
his verse does not say that god was watching porn, does it? Using your logic I could assume that he was. Yes, this verse was kind of taken from context, but it only an example.


Well, atheists like to say the big bang is more plausible that God. Here I may say it's more plausible that there was human error that divine failure.
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I'd always thought Kronos was only castrated...


It depends on what myth you go by, they did not have one particular book.

Hephaestus received Aphrodite by the kindness of his mother.


That is sarcasm, right? My sarcasm detector is broken.

Satan isn't a god, though, he was an angel.


True, but in most myths you would consider him a minor god.
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He knows you're coming. He STOPS you from coming. Do you understand what I am saying.


He TRIES to stop. He can't stop the iron chariots. We wouldn't even need strategy, we could just ligntn' them. Perl gates are easy to get past with iron chariots or steel tanks.

Well, atheists like to say the big bang is more plausible that God. Here I may say it's more plausible that there was human error that divine failure.


But the book doesn't say that, thus its logical to assume it was a flaw in god's "omnipotence". A few tanks and *BOOM* revolution.
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He TRIES to stop. He can't stop the iron chariots. We wouldn't even need strategy, we could just ligntn' them. Perl gates are easy to get past with iron chariots or steel tanks.


So... for some reason you think iron chariots could beat him, even when I have pointed out that they would not. You not believing me doesn't matter, God is omnipotent. If you came with him with iron chariots, he could freeze you in place because he's all-powerful stop ignoring what I'm saying.
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So... for some reason you think iron chariots could beat him, even when I have pointed out that they would not. You not believing me doesn't matter, God is omnipotent. If you came with him with iron chariots, he could freeze you in place because he's all-powerful stop ignoring what I'm saying.


YOU STOP IGNORING WHAT I AM SAYING! THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IRON CHARIOTS STOPPED GOD'S OF FENCE, THUS FOR SOME REASON IRON CHARIOTS CAN BEAT GOD. IT MATTERS NOTHING WHAT YOU THINK. IF THE BIBLE WERE TRUE, THAN IRON CHARIOTS CAN BEAT GOD.

I am sorry for yelling, but I had to blast threw you closed mind.
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Um you're wrong. No need to get so angry, but indeed the stop of offensive was Judas' lack of faith in their victory, so he quit.

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YOU STOP IGNORING WHAT I AM SAYING! THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IRON CHARIOTS STOPPED GOD'S OF FENCE, THUS FOR SOME REASON IRON CHARIOTS CAN BEAT GOD. IT MATTERS NOTHING WHAT YOU THINK. IF THE BIBLE WERE TRUE, THAN IRON CHARIOTS CAN BEAT GOD.

Wow... More fails.

Dude, stop assuming that God would do all of the fighting for someone, if that was the case, then there would be no wars now.

Besides, what I remember from the Bible is that God aided with morale, not the meteors and earthquakes that people first think of.

I am sorry for yelling, but I had to blast threw you closed mind.

Maybe you're the one with the closed mind here? You seem so intent on proving what cannot be proven, and what is illogical this time: that an omnipotent being can be stopped with small advances in metallurgy.
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Um you're wrong. No need to get so angry, but indeed the stop of offensive was Judas' lack of faith in their victory, so he quit.



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Lack of faith? After they just massacred several armies without losing a man, or at least without mention of loosing a man? Stop trying to make excuses for the Bible. It says no were in the Bible that it was because of his lack of faith. You are just making excuses for the Bible. Now could you please find a verse as I have?
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