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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
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Why would God have duped the Jews, and the Muslims, and the Buddhists, if Jesus was the True God? ESPECIALLY the Jews. He spent an entire Testament leading them on if Christianity is true! Half of the Bible!
The Jews just missed it don't blame God on this one, and many of them did convert, only .2% of the world is Jewish, 30-50% is christian. As for the Muslims they have a different profit (not money profit but im not sure how you spell the other...) and savior, their savior is actualy the christians anti-christ and our christ is their anti-christ.
atheism has no God.
Science is our 'God' per se. The one whom we believe in.
Random fact- did you know that 89% of Atheists believe in the art of science and or creationism?
Well um, this thread just officially died. For now we are talking about Coke and Pepsi?!
[cokes better]
Anyway, yea off-topic now.
Unless you where talking about how holy Coke is! Then you'd have tons of followers in your religion! XD
their savior is actualy the christians anti-christ and our christ is their anti-christ.
I thik you mentioned that a while back and I didn't really understand it then. Could you please explain it.
As far as I know Dajjal, it is believed, will rise up and form an army of people he has deceived and fight a war against JESUS and his followers.
Science is our 'God' per se. The one whom we believe in.
Not true. Although many atheists support scientific evidence 'cause it's actually true unlike religion, it's not a cult of science or anything like that. That's a misconception.
Not true. Although many atheists support scientific evidence 'cause it's actually true unlike religion, it's not a cult of science or anything like that. That's a misconception.
PER SE!!!!!!!!
well then I'm starting a new religion that worships coca-cola as our lord and savior. Since everybody knows that coca-cola is a manufactured idea, then no one will be deluded that our god is really made up by humans. Perfect!
Don't take my ideas out of context![quote]
I hate it when people try to take another person's ideas out of context, even for debate purposes. Meh...
whoops, I mixed up the quote and the unquote. sorry. I'm only a wood squire, you can't blame me.
I thik you mentioned that a while back and I didn't really understand it then. Could you please explain it.
Ok, lets start with the first visit the christians christ was Jesus the Muslims was uh...not Jesus. Now we both believe in a 7 year period of tribulation, Christians believe that Jesus will come back after the period of seven years a take us to heaven (obviously it's more intricate but ya.)
Islam however says that there christ will make a peace treaty for 7 years with Israel, the christians anti-christ does this but under false pretences. If that makes sense good, if not just ask me to clarify.
cause it's actually true unlike religion
90% percent of science is theories, your believeing something that isnt true :P
As for the Muslims they have a different profit of savior, their savior is actualy the christians anti-christ and our christ is their anti-christ.
Who told you this? Muslims believe that Christ was a profit, just not the last one. They don't believe anything close to what you said and Christians don't believe MUHAMMAD is the anti-Christ. I just lost what little respect I had for you. You are just a brain washed sheep who vomits back up what is crammed down your through for years.
yea, samy, you're more mixed up than a jar of triple-whisked Hellman's mayo that's been put in a blender for three hours, whisked again, poured in a glass, and then was frothed by a milk frothier for five days...and that's mixed up...lol
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@ 1angelette, diet soda isn't nearly as harmful, yet the same can't be said about diet Christianity, it's still crazy impossible stories with too much phenylalanine in the crappy Keurig coffee(seriously, all of the churches only serve this awful Keurig coffee that tastes terrible.)
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Anyway, back on topic. Samy being crazy and mixed up proves another point: Christianity, the religion of peace and love, has caused hundreds of disagreements and wars over the years. A good deal of modern religion has become hypocrisy because most of the Christians I meet today say to be loving and kind, yet end up doing horrible things like telling an innocent 3rd grade child that because his dad is a non-secular, that he will go to hell. And do I even have to mention the whole sinister minister thing? The definition of "Christian" is starting to become "erson who accepts Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, yet only believes in the crazy stories like Noah's Ark and disregards the few words of love and peace in the Bible that are actually true." Just humanity though, I guess, with our bloodthirsty nature and naturally illogical nature.
Who told you this? Muslims believe that Christ was a profit, just not the last one. They don't believe anything close to what you said and Christians don't believe MUHAMMAD is the anti-Christ. I just lost what little respect I had for you. You are just a brain washed sheep who vomits back up what is crammed down your through for years.
Ok, so you know the speaker at a huge christian confrence who used to be muslim was completley wrong. First Muhammad isn't even their savior incase you missed that. Second I'm refering to the time of tribulation! There's a big difference sorry but you 100% wrong.
PS I'm glad you don't have respect for me now the feeling is mutual.
Anyway, back on topic. Samy being crazy and mixed up proves another point: Christianity, the religion of peace and love, has caused hundreds of disagreements and wars over the years. A good deal of modern religion has become hypocrisy because most of the Christians I meet today say to be loving and kind, yet end up doing horrible things like telling an innocent 3rd grade child that because his dad is a non-secular, that he will go to hell. And do I even have to mention the whole sinister minister thing? The definition of "Christian" is starting to become "erson who accepts Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, yet only believes in the crazy stories like Noah's Ark and disregards the few words of love and peace in the Bible that are actually true." Just humanity though, I guess, with our bloodthirsty nature and naturally illogical nature.
Every ideal have caused arguments throughout the years, don't blame this just on christians. And I haven't hear that story but it's wrong they shouldn't have done that, however if he didn't except Jesus then he is...sorry. Second Noahs arc really isn't that crazy in fact it makes sense, but anyway actual christians strive to be like Jesus however were humans were no different from anyone, we just usualy feel worse when we do something wrong.
Every ideal have caused arguments throughout the years, don't blame this just on christians.
Your point is irrelevant because in this thread, we are specifically talking about Christianity. You can go off and point your fingers around saying "They did it too," but the end doesn't justify the mean.
Second Noahs arc really isn't that crazy in fact it makes sense,
So, you're telling me that out of the millions and millions of species in the world, in addition to those which we have not discovered yet, Noah put them all on a boat that was however many cubits tall, and however many cubits wide, and then managed to feed them, maintain their health, and keep them from killing each other for over 40 days and 40 nights? Plausible to me.
however were humans were no different from anyone, we just usualy feel worse when we do something wrong.
This is where I ended up getting pissed. Who are you to know how badly someone feels about doing something that is considered wrong? Are you implying that non-Christians don't have morals? This is exactly the high and mighty attitude that turns so many people off to Christianity.
90% percent of science is theories, your believeing something that isnt true :P
Where's your data?
And for NOW they are, because it takes millions of trials to prove hypothesis. You can say stuff all you want but that doesn't mean it's true if you don't have data. That is the debate.
Plausible to me.
Yea, right!
actual christians strive to be like Jesus
Why?
What makes him so 'divine' or 'special' that he is a role model to so many people?
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Anyhow, I do not get how people can believe the 'noah arc' thing and the how Jesus was so divine. People literally started a religion based off of a man in roman times! What happened to the other so thousand years, was there a man whom talked to God too? Is he divine?
Also how was Jesus so divine, he died on the cross?! That is mortal to me. And anyone can become a ghost after death, that's NOT divine. That is just the need to fullfill your meaning of life. . .
Science is our 'God' per se. The one whom we believe in.
Science is not an entity
As far as I know Dajjal, it is believed, will rise up and form an army of people he has deceived and fight a war against JESUS and his followers.
We're on Islam now? According to Islamic beliefs, Dajjal is the Anti-Christ talked about in the Bible. In the Quo'ran he is described elaborately but he is well-known for having only one eye, reminds me of Cyclops in Greek Mythology . The Dajjal will have many god-like powers such as raising the dead, healing, control over weather, ect.
With his powers he will fool the weak-faithed believers into worshipping and following him as their God. This is seen as a test of faith in Islam. Every step he takes moves him 8 km forward (as far as the average human being sees.) Muslims, like many Christians, believe Christ is not dead and will rise again to defeat the Dajjal in the final battle between good and evil.
I'm starting a new religion that worships coca-cola as our lord and savior.
I'm in! You bring up an interesting point, actually, is a pathetic belief like that any different from organized religion? Hey, at least you can see coca-cola, helps the credibility along .
What I find annoying is that when people talk about UFOs and aliens, everyone looks at them like they're sick or crazy, but when someone says they believe in an invisible being in the skies who watches everyone's actions ALL THE TIME, they respect their beliefs. In reality, which is more plausable?
90% percent of science is theories, your believeing something that isnt true :P
Where do you get these insane statistics? Don't make claims like that if you don't have proof to back it up.
As for the Muslims they have a different profit of savior, their savior is actualy the christians anti-christ and our christ is their anti-christ.
Whoa! Muslims believe Jesus is a profit, and they praise him as part of their prayers, they respect him and believe that he will come back when the Dajjal (Anti-Christ) arrives, and lead all believers to victory. Since when is Muhammad the Christian Anti-Christ?
Christianity, the religion of peace and love
Christianity is the leading cause of death.
Hey, look throughout history. I made a discovery, people who are victims at one point in history use that as their excuse for EVERY mistake they do in the future. For example, no one blames Christians for the wars they caused because Jesus was crucified by the Jews. No one blames Israel for their assault on Palestinian rights, because of the holocaust. See a pattern emerging?
First Muhammad isn't even their savior incase you missed that
He didn't even say Muhammad was their savior! To the Muslims, Muhammed is simply a messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and many others before them. In Arabic, he is called "Al-Monther" Meaning "The Warner". I know it doesn't make much sense, I'm a terrible translator but the idea is he was sent to "warn" his people (who at the time worshipped statues) of the afterlife, trying to lead them to the right path of love and to heaven.
Noahs arc really isn't that crazy in fact it makes sense
The question is, how does it make sense?
actual christians strive to be like Jesus however were humans were no different from anyone, we just usualy feel worse when we do something wrong.
Jesus was a modest man who wanted his followers to do good. As far as I'm concerned, he failed at his objective, and his followers were no where near good. The way I look at it, Jesus was simply a moral teacher, and if he claimed to be God, then I lost a great deal of respect to him.
Who are you to be speaking for all non-Christians? Atheists and Agnostics are critical thinkers who actually analyze what is put in front of them and make careful decisions, instead of blindly accepting what is taught to them without paying the slightest attention the other side which they are being shielded from, and yet assume that their side is correct and that all others are inferior to them. Of course, this is a generalization and I am not talking about all Christians, just the majority of them.
out of the millions and millions of species in the world, in addition to those which we have not discovered yet, Noah put them all on a boat that was however many cubits tall, and however many cubits wide, and then managed to feed them, maintain their health, and keep them from killing each other for over 40 days and 40 nights?
Don't forget the many different species of every insect and animal, must've been hard for him to gather'em all
anyone can become a ghost after death
Really?
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