I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
Do you go to a Christian school, or a non-religious school? Because this guy really can't expect to accomplish much if it's a regular school. I go to Christian school, so maybe there's not so much whackhoness because we're already Christian anyway. This guy leaves me wondering...
Regular school. It's an after-school thing, because both of my parents work It's generally an awesome place, but that guy is a bad apple. ---- I wanted it gone. I like the Blank Wonder.
Oh, I was beginning to wonder why you had so much experience with Christian after-school activities. Kind of sucks for you, even I wouldn't want to be there for that. Anyway, probably won't respond again, I'm leaving for a while.
wow this guy sounds like he's really into this stuff, what i don't understand is how Christianity can claim all this crap about being the first religion, when there's factual evidence that says the Christianity was one of the last religions to be founded yet i have friends that say the Christianity was indeed the first religion...
@Kyounzou: Who says that? I'm Christian, I know my religion was one of the last to form. It can't be the first religion, because it started after Judiasm. Unless your Christian friends are being metaphorical or something...
Before anything: shouldn't this be called Religion vs Atheism. Christianity isn't the only religion out there, you know. But, whatever; I used to be Christian, so that's the only religion I have the right to talk about the way I'm about to.
Anyway, I, personally, am an Atheist, and I am confident with my decision.
Let me make it clear that I don't hate religion. I just disagree with...many of their teachings
First off: Religion (Well, Christianity anyway) tries much too hard to achieve a state of immortality. They try and teach us to be above ourselves and against what we're really supposed to be. Now of course it's good to be the best person we can be (and that's what I like about religion: it teaches us good values), but more than once, they ask us to do things beyond human. Why forbid things like lust and greed? they are completely human feelings. It would be better to tell us to watch what we're doing than say it's outright wrong. I mean, these are basic self-preservation instincts, and that's how we got to this point in the first place!
Secondly, religion causes distrust toward our fellow humans. As many of you may very well know, most wars were caused by religion. Why, just a couple of months ago, I told my friend that I was an Atheist, and he said "Huh?, so you're for the devil". They are actually teaching us that people of different faiths are evil (Note that my friend studies at a Catholic school). OK, that was overreacting a bit. What I meant to say was: Christianity was much nobler after the death of Jesus of Nazareth; back then when it was just struggling to exist. It was all about the values and teaching us to make the most out of our lives, but just like anyone else you give power to, the Christian leaders got corrupted at some point and sorta seem to be bent on world domination (just kidding...kinda). When I listen to my teachers at Religion class, what they seem to be saying is "Everyone must worship the sky daddy". This may seem a bit biased, but I consider Religion to be the only legal way to control people's minds.
Lastly, the religious leaders are purposely closed-minded. Whenever a new theory against creationism comes by, they make up excuses to keep the people believing them. Like when the first fossils were found, they just said that God just put them there as some sort of trick. Well, I'm sorry, but the way you explained him in the holy book, he doesn't seem like that much of a joker. A perfect example of this closed-mindedness is the very first post in this thread. I'm sorry, but that one just made me mad.
Well, that's it. The best reasons I can think of for me losing my belief in Christianity
Oh, and sorry if any of this was mentioned before, I don't have the patience to read through 135 pages.
@Necrotic - i haven't read through 135 pages of posts but from what i did read, your argument was at least informitive. however i'd have to only agree with your "well christianity" bit, asi am neither christian or athiest.
i don't believe the thread should be a "VS" thread, and i don't think either christianity or athiesm is better than the other. people are entilted to their beliefs. i love the christian faith, i find it interesting, although i'm pagan. i think believeing in something that matters to you is a good way to be. and if that means not believing in a religion, there ya go, whatever suits.
This thread was made by one of those close-minded Christians you mentioned. He seemed to not have realized that Christianity was the only theistic religion. Also, the main topic is the existence of the Christian God, and calling it 'religion vs. atheism' wouldn't work because there are atheistic religions, like Shintoism or Buddhism.
Before anything: shouldn't this be called Religion vs Atheism. Christianity isn't the only religion out there, you know.
I think that a religion v Atheism thread would be too wide an issue and any way I would guess that 95% of theists on here are Christian. anyway if it was religion you would have the thiests arguing which religion was right and it would loose focus etc. C versus A is give or take 2 beliefs to debate R versus A would encompase dozens if nt hundreds of different ideas.
@ thisisnotanalt- Thanks for showing me the difference between atheism and theism, I didn't really know (SEE what the catholic school system does to you...meh, maybe that's just because I'm thirteen).
@Pixie214- I was thinking more of a "to believe or not to believe" argument, but you're right. The widening of the topic's scope to the point of being completely messed up would be unavoidable.
