I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
Christianity is believing in God. vs. Atheism is believing there's a logical reason. Hmmm, IMO believing in something is also better than believing in nothing.
How is it better? I mean did you take the 'Getting something is better then getting nothing' saying and change it up?
It does not seem to work when comparing these two topics. (Or this whole topic)
Beliveing in nothing can be better..... I mean then your not concerned about going to heaven or hell your whole life for things that you do. Not saying comitting crimes is a good thing, but being afraid your whole life that someone is going to decide weather you burn in hell or live a great after life can hurt a person a lot.
PS: I belive in god....so I'm just trying to think on the other side of the fence.
Ya know, you could say that an atheist that does good things is better then a Christian that does good things because the atheist is doing them because they are good for the word at can be seen and is real, where as the Christian could be doing them just because they dont want to be punished and burn in hell. Of course that is very simplified
When I do good things, i hope good things will come to me...Oh! Good example, I was looking for a job, I think working is good, when I found this ladies checkbook, and a bag with her purse and social security card and everything, so i contacted her and her husband came to pick up her affects and gave me one hundred dollars. It just so happened that I needed that one hundred dollars for an electric bill.
Ya know, you could say that an atheist that does good things is better then a Christian that does good things because the atheist is doing them because they are good for the word at can be seen and is real, where as the Christian could be doing them just because they dont want to be punished and burn in hell. Of course that is very simplified
Doing something good to get rewarded, like with the idea of heaven, means people aren't being good to help others, they're simply trying to help themselves. It may work in society, but eventually something like that will collapse. When I do something good, I do it because it makes me feel good. Yes, I suppose that's the same idea as doing something for others to get something for myself, but its for a different reason. I feel good because I know I helped someone and that they feel better because of it, I don't feel good because now I might get eternal rewards. Morals that are forced on someone due to religion don't have as much hold as morals that are taught by others, and self-taught as well. There's plenty of Christian kids I know that that do believe in heaven and hell but don't think it'll impact them if they do something bad and think they're fine no matter what they do. I can't think that way. It just doesn't work for me. Even if I try to ignore doing something good, like giving money to a beggar, I feel sometimes feel just as bad, sometimes even sick, as if I had have done something extremely wrong. I'm not the kind of person who's the perfect little obedient kid, and can't break rules because I'm petrified of being punished, but my own morals tell me when to do the right thing, not some morals from a book that's a few thousand years old, and those morals are the ones that are going to change what I do in any given situation without hesitation.
When I do good things, i hope good things will come to me.
This reminds me of Kant, whose categorical imperative needs a god in order to have a reward system for good acts. I think it's interesting, though, that many religious people have this impression of their actions as being able to influence their future somehow. When I do something nice for someone, I feel good about it. This is my reward. Sometimes I even get thanked, so that's pretty nice. Do Christians not feel this or something? I assume they must, so why do Christians need even more reward for doing something nice?
I'm sorry i said that thing about when i do good things, i hope good things will come to me, that was a joke. The story about finding the ladies stuff was true, and the reward was true, but I would have been just as happy with the outcome of the situation had I not received a monetary award. I agree with the idea that the feelings resulting from an act of goodness are enough reward for the behavior period.
I actualy am inbetween. I don't really believe in god but I know He's there, it is kind of weird if you ask me.
Same here.
Except I belive in god, yet ask myself....is he really there? Did man just create God to hold onto something? To help them through something?
You know? Questions that raise more questions.....I mean god could just be somthing created long ago to help man survive and give them a higher up to worship.
I mean the Greeks & Romens in ancient times belived in more then one god, so back then, those gods were real as the god we have today.
Is it all a mankinds thought's or is he/she/them really out there?
@Kyounzou: Who says that? I'm Christian, I know my religion was one of the last to form. It can't be the first religion, because it started after Judiasm. Unless your Christian friends are being metaphorical or something...
No they actually believe that Christianity was the first religion ever just like they believe that the world is only 10,000 or so years old, believe it or not these kids are in the IB program, the one for those genii in the budding.
No they actually believe that Christianity was the first religion ever just like they believe that the world is only 10,000 or so years old, believe it or not these kids are in the IB program, the one for those genii in the budding.
Are you serious? Are these people retarded? Jesus was a Jew and must have been a Jew for any of the bible to make sense at all! Even if you reject the ancient Greco-Roman religions and just treat the bible as its own independent set of atomic facts, one must still accept that Judaism existed prior to Christianity for any of it to be self-referentially coherent.
Moegreche has a point. How could Christianity be the first religion, JESUS WAS A JEW! And cavemen roamed the land before anyone, so there is a good thought that Atheism was the first religion.
No they actually believe that Christianity was the first religion ever just like they believe that the world is only 10,000 or so years old, believe it or not these kids are in the IB program, the one for those genii in the budding.
Are they brainwashed and refuse to look at the facts? I mean like Moe stated, for any of it to make sense, it would debunk any of thier beliveings, such as how Christianity was the first religion on Earth....Etc.....Do they not read history books?
