Alright, so two people can touch eachother, and Al Gore isn't a terrorist. But I refuse to stop arguing with people that are smarter than me until I can win.
This was inspired by an episode of the television show, The Moment of Truth. A paramedic was asked if fat people repulsed him, his answer was yes. This led me to question whether fat people repulsed me, my conclusion is for myself only but it has led me to more questions, mainly, are the obese immoral?
I am sure everyone can say, that they believe that allowing another person to starve to death, specifically children, is immoral, or, not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics.
A normal adult consumes 2427 calories a day, 18% less than an obese adult.
Since a baby needs 100 calories a day, every second day an obese person is effectively responsible for the death of a baby in a third world country. That is 182 babies every year. People are given the death penalty, for many less than that.
and aren't going to become a burden to society as easily.
well how many top athletes become injured very often, and have to be taken care of? a lot. so in a way they are also a burden to society.
What makes the football jocks think that they're so much better than the kid who can get straight A's
they look good, are strong, are selfconfident, thats all what counts in highschool. after they are out, 90% of them is leading an average life, or even below average depending on the quality of their education. 10% get a sports scholarship and have the chance of a good college education. and the fewest end up in the nfl nba or whatever it is they are playing.
the thing is, the older you get, the more smarts count too.
of course it is best, if you can be as well athletic and be a smart educated guy.
well how many top athletes become injured very often, and have to be taken care of? a lot. so in a way they are also a burden to society.
True, but they pay for that themselves. It's not a burden if someone is getting something in return for the services. Many over weight people live off public welfare because they "can't" get a job. I'm not saying all over weight people don't have a job, but a trend I've seen is that many don't.
Many over weight people live off public welfare because they "can't" get a job. I'm not saying all over weight people don't have a job, but a trend I've seen is that many don't.
this trend you should prove before posting. i do not really think it is true.
True, but they pay for that themselves
well an obese person with health issuses pays also for himself.
It's not a burden if someone is getting something in return for the services.
what is the service the average athlete brings to society? except when he plays the playoffs or some other major league sports.
well an obese person with health issuses pays also for himself.
Not in a lot of cases. Many people can't afford health care so the government pays for it. Not only obese people, but a lot.
what is the service the average athlete brings to society? except when he plays the playoffs or some other major league sports.
I meant that the doctors get paid in return for their services.
i do not really think it is true.
You've never noticed that a lot of overweight people don't go out and get a job like everyone else? I have many family members like that, and most people out working are of average weight.
You've never noticed that a lot of overweight people don't go out and get a job like everyone else? I have many family members like that, and most people out working are of average weight.
no never noticed. all overweight people i know lead a perfectly normal life. and since in the us over 50% of the people have weight issuses, than the unemplyment rate should be much higher than it is if being fat would stop you from working.
it is true that an person, which is so obese that he/she cannot move will not work, but there are lot of other health concerns which hinder you from getting a job.
Not in a lot of cases. Many people can't afford health care so the government pays for it. Not only obese people, but a lot.
therefore not paying for ones health issues is not specificlly linked to a persons weight
Not all weight problems are problems with being fat you know, some people are so afraid of being fat that they starve themselves! There a thirty year-olds that could weigh only 90 pounds!
Not all weight problems are problems with being fat you know, some people are so afraid of being fat that they starve themselves! There a thirty year-olds that could weigh only 90 pounds!
i might have misspelled. you get the meaning.
yes i am aware of that. but last time i checked this thread was about obese people.
Well I think we can all agree that being obese in a society with universal health care is immoral due to the burden you are causing on the health care system and your fellow citizens.
This is one of the main arguments against smoking after all, and smokers and ciggarette making companies seems to be getting their collective butts kicked.
Why shouldn't it be the same for Overeaters and junk food producing companies?
Well I think we can all agree that being obese in a society with universal health care is immoral due to the burden you are causing on the health care system and your fellow citizens. This is one of the main arguments against smoking after all, and smokers and ciggarette making companies seems to be getting their collective butts kicked. Why shouldn't it be the same for Overeaters and junk food producing companies?
Problem: Too many fatties.
Solution: Put a governmnet tax on all high calorie junk food.
Well I think we can all agree that being obese in a society with universal health care is immoral due to the burden you are causing on the health care system and your fellow citizens.
Exactly what I was trying to get across. Even though America doesn't have universal health care, there are many over weight people who receive free health care.
I didn't really understand this either...I just...can't read it.
Yeah, it was late and I was tired. In your OP you accused obese people of being responsible for the death of babies in third world countries because apparently there are only the perfect ammount of callories on the planet everyday (going by your logic). So what I'm saying is. Why does eating excessively because you want to be a body builder or an athlete more valid than eating because you like the food? Keeping in mind that by your logic these poor babies are dying anyway...
