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Ferret
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Hey all. I put together an idea for ranks, let me know your thoughts.

#0 - Nomad
#1 - Peasant
#2 - Shepherd
#3 - Farmer
#4 - Blacksmith
#5 - Jester
#6 - Scribe
#7 - Bard
#8 - Herald
#9 - Constable
#10 - Treasurer
#11 - Templar
#12 - Justiciar
#13 - Chancellor
#14 - Chamberlain
#15 - Lord & Lady
#16 - Baron & Baroness
#17 - Count & Countess
#18 - Marquis & Marquise
#19 - Duke & Duchess
#20 - Archduke & Archduchess
#21 - Grand Duke & Grand Duchess
#22 - Viceroy & Vicereine
#23 - Regent
#24 - Prince & Princess
#25 - King & Queen

NOTE: If you have an idea for ranking system titles, please post it below for all to see.

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jetonga53
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Jester

would be nice maybe names can change

welltell
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welltell
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Farmer

I am wondering if i should even attempt at making an argument.
Since i am kind of late to the party.
The only example i can give is from the players point of view.
What is cooler to be a knight or a super elite.
A knight or medieval knight rides a horse, jousts and goes on quests.
What is a super elite???
You can create a whole new character, story and amatar to explain what a super elite would be. It would motivate a player to find out what is the next rank and its story.
It would open up things to being a bit more creative and interesting.
Then again if your list is finalized then this argument is dead in the water.


Olinser
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Well yes, obviously few would make it that high.

But that would potentially open up the door to allow each new person that reached rank 25 to pick their own synonym for King (within reason, of course).

I mean I'm pretty close to it right now.

helpo1
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Well, we'll definitely need to know the formulas for stars and ranks once the titles themselves are implemented.

Swarmlord2
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For now, we can try to work them out... But I am too lazy

Olinser
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Well I can definitively say that the following currently do NOT increase your points:

Rating a game (either positive or negative)
Playing a new game
Commenting on a game
Receiving an upvote to a previous comment on a game
Posting a new comment in the forum
Posting in a new thread in the forum
Posting in an area on the forum you have not previously commented in (as in like News and Feedback)

So far the only thing I've seen that increases points is getting quests. I would assume that Merits give points, but that's almost impossible to test without mod participation since traits are pretty rare.

helpo1
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@Olinser - merits most certainly award points. The three 25ers I mentioned before all have >60 merits - and that's probably what makes them Kings. If one merit awards 50 stars, then they would be at 28k, 27k and 26k respectively without them.

@Gantic (1012+97=33070), @ivanxxxxxxx (984+65=30260) and @MrDayCee (938+70=29895).


This is a formula by @Patrick2011, made about a month ago:
Each easy quest is worth 10 points.
Each medium quest is worth 25 points.
Each hard quest is worth 50 points.
Each insane quest is worth 200 points.
Each merit is worth 50 points.
The above values are for game quests. It is not known whether website and/or legendary quests count for points.

It most probably works, since I have earned exactly 870 stars since April 28th - 7 easy quests, 8 medium, 7 hard, 1 insane and 1 merit.

The question is... which quests do not count? If this formula went for every single quest, I, for example, would have 31575 stars instead of 27395.


Out of those, the following are non-gaming quests:

Easy:
  • Random Game
  • Talk About Stuff
  • Forum-tastic
  • Game Lover
  • Armatar Exchange
  • Critic
  • Friendly

Medium:

  • Birthday Time
  • Halloween
  • Talk Like a Pirate Day

Insane:

  • Guide
  • Bug Killer
  • Count to 100
  • Knight's Blessing
  • Debate Winner
  • Armatar Creator
  • Poetry
  • Artist
  • Builder

Legendary:

  • [AFD 2015] Happy Sushi Cat (Medium)
  • [AFD 2015] Happy Vegetable (Insane)
  • [AFD 2014] Copper Dime (Easy)
  • [AFD 2014] Silver Quarter (Hard)
  • [AFD 2014] Gold Doubloon (Insane)
  • [AFD 2014] Magic Diamond (Insane?)
  • Legacy quests (6+6+6+3)

(The italicized ones I don't have.)

Even after subtracting all non-gaming quests, I would have 30605 stars. So either something decreases your star points, or our formulas are totally wrong, or even some of the gaming quests don't count.


Furthermore, it's not only the stars formulas, but also rank formulas we need to know - and those will be probably harder to discover by reverse engineering.

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@Ferret, @MrDayCee - I also noticed some minor discrepancies while doing quests research.
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Rush 3-Day Play and Frontiers 3-Day Play are marked as hard, while Chibi 3-Day Play is marked as medium. That's a bit... weird, at least, since they all require you to do the same thing.
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If sorted by Game Name, non-gaming quests are divided into three groups.

  • Guide and Bug Killer appear on the beginning;
  • Birthday Time to Friendly appear between Hands of War 3 and Help the Hero;
  • Debate Winner, Armatar Creator, Poetry, Artist and Builder appear between The Last Stand - Dead Zone and The Weapon Masters.

Those most probably should be given one "game name" and one location (or two, Website quests and Contest quests). Anyway, Guide and Bug Killer all alone doesn't have any sense.
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Almost all Website, Contest and Legendary quests' hardnesses have to be updated.

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Man, I spent almost two hours writing this post. :P

7*10 + 8*25 + 7*50 + 1*200 + 1*50 = 870
Swarmlord2
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I appreciate your 2 hours of work @helpo1

Doombreed
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We all do actually

Though we are really going to need the complete formula for the stars someday xD

welltell
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welltell
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Farmer

Insane quest give out 200 points... suddenly i get the urge to play and finish some of those insane quests...lol

SirLegendary
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Duke

@Ferret These will be the new ranks? These will be released when?

EDIT: Please do make them official

Ferret
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Ferret
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When Boppins is able to implement them. He's out of the office today, but I can talk to him about them tomorrow. He's sick, we hope he gets better soon!

Swarmlord2
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Is it Unicorn flu? Where is the office (the Earth one, not the mighty fortress of Armoria)?

helpo1
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Update: Knight's Blessing definitely does increase SPs, by 200 stars.

Doombreed
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It would be nice to have a Star Board (get it? starboard?... no? Alright, alright I'll stop) like the current Hero Board

Also, good to know helpo. We are one step closer to successfully reverse-engineering the formula

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