ForumsWEPRWhich came first, the chicken or the Egg.Is the answer just common sense?

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crimsonblade55
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The classic argument over which came first.I wanted to bring this up, because I was thinking a little bit and realized something.Why do scientist believe that the egg came first, if it had no mother to lay it, then keep it warm, and also after the eggs hatched they would have no way of surviving on their own without a parent to take care of them.So why do some scientist think this way when it is common sense that the chicken came first.I want to here your opinions on this matter.

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crimsonblade55
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Exactly my point thank you Acetony1.

acetony1
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The chicken, because it would have to sit on the egg.

Cholokid
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not necessarily, things change over time which means the first egg may not have had to been sat on.

crimsonblade55
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So your saying that the eggs devolved some how making it harder for them to survive.I find that highly unlikely.

acetony1
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Maybe.. that could be possible but its more likely to need warmth of some kind.

acetony1
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Lol nice one Crimsonblade!

crimsonblade55
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Thanks acetony1,and thanks for backing up my theory on the idea(or whatever you want to call it,maybe a hypothesis)

Mac_MK
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Know one really knows how things started and I don't think there's a truth answer to this chicken and egg topic

Programpro
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Now if we where to say it HAD to be an egg that a Chicken laid to be an "Egg" then the Chicken came first, simply due to the fact it was hatched from a non-chicken "Egg".


I think an egg is deermined by what's inside, not out. If a chicken was inside, it's a chicken egg, regardless of what layed it.

Know one really knows how things started and I don't think there's a truth answer to this chicken and egg topic


I already talked about this. If you don't have a hypothesis, then what do you gain by posting?

The chicken, because it would have to sit on the egg.


Not necessarily. Based on Natural Selection, there could have been a pseudo-chicken species which was similar to the chicken but different enough to be a different species, which would lay an egg with a mutation that made it a chicken! Egg first.
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for those of you that say the chicken evolved from a bird into a chicken and then layed an egg with another chicken in it, I think you are confused. Evolution doesn't occur during an animals life, its not like the Chickens genes changed as it was alive and it started to sprout a bigger beak. Evolution occurs because of natural selection: the death of animals with less favorable qualities and the survival and reproduction of those with favorable qualities. The qualities that modern day chickens have were favorable for their survival back in the day. So the ones with more chicken like genes reproduced and the others died out. So all the pre-chickens kept reproducing, getting closer and closer to the modern day chicken, until 2 almost chickens reproduced, laying an egg with the modern day chicken in it. Do you guys get it now? Its very simple. Thats how evolution and natural selection work. Animals don't just mutate, the species changes over long periods of time, due to the death of animals with genes not suitable to their environment And the reproduction of others.

chowdollas
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wow i did not know that

Programpro
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Thankyou so much, Flipski. That's what I was trying to say this whole time! Geez, people, listen to this guy!

Btw, I said pretty much this same thing on page 4 or 5 and no one said anything.

Eric_Cartman
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ha lol everyone knows the egg came first, first of all chickens have evolutionary reletives, and they are close to the same, so they species kept the chicken egg warm.

chowdollas
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i agree with fil

Eric_Cartman
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ya im with filpski too and program pro

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