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necromancer
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Story here.

Do you think this was a smart choice?

Will he be able to pick up Hilary supporters?

Will McCain lose/gain some ground on his argument that Obama lacks experience?

Or do you not care because the vice-president doesn't actually do anything?

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Agent_86
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And I'm listening to Dr. Laura now, and she's ripping Palin also...

TotalReview
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I guess I will start off by saying Palin was an average choice. McCain needed a woman to get the women's vote. I am not sure if Palin will collect it though. If Condoleezza Rice wanted to be his VP, McCain would have easily won. Who cares if she does not have experience? It's not like whatever she says, goes. That applies to Obama as well.

Palin has a pregnant teenage daughter and I don't really see a problem with that. You can't say Palin will be horrible based on one choice made by her daughter. Obama said he does not want families involved. However, there are some rumors he has said some mean things about Palin. Now, that could or could not be true. If you want to say Palin is horrible based on her daughter getting pregnant at 17, I think that is ridiculous. Besides, Obama was born when his mother was 18 so what difference does it make?

Carlie
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Palin has a pregnant teenage daughter and I don't really see a problem with that. You can't say Palin will be horrible based on one choice made by her daughter. Obama said he does not want families involved. However, there are some rumors he has said some mean things about Palin. Now, that could or could not be true. If you want to say Palin is horrible based on her daughter getting pregnant at 17, I think that is ridiculous. Besides, Obama was born when his mother was 18 so what difference does it make?

Yea, what her daughter did should not completely reflect her. Sure, it might be some sort of defect in parenting. But the fact is, her daughter made the decision, and not her. They do not have to use this as a complete negative. After all, it supports their pro-life stance.

As far as Obama saying this about Palin, there is absolutely no proof of that. All that he has come out and said was that he had never met her, but had heard she was a wonderful lady and a good choice. He has never spoken of her negatively. At least not to the media. Sure they are probably back there laughing at the decision... because c'mon! Everything they attacked about Obama, she is worse!
thingthingfreak
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I am guessing that Carlie is on Obama's side

Agent_86
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But according to the "mainstream" media, you can't attack Obama's family or you're a racist. Now they attack Palin's family in an attempt to find any dirt possible on her.

SuperzMcShort
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But according to the "mainstream" media, you can't attack Obama's family or you're a racist. Now they attack Palin's family in an attempt to find any dirt possible on her.


What reason would you have to attack his family? With the exception of his parents Obama's has a pretty normal family. The difference between attacking Obama for his parents and Palin for her children is that you don't have any control over you parents and they don't reflect on what you will become, however people generally think that the things your children do reflect on your actions as a parent even though they generally don't.
Agent_86
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What reason would you have to attack his family? With the exception of his parents Obama's has a pretty normal family. The difference between attacking Obama for his parents and Palin for her children is that you don't have any control over you parents and they don't reflect on what you will become, however people generally think that the things your children do reflect on your actions as a parent even though they generally don't.
Well, It's the same. According to the media, you can't rip Mrs. Obama, but they rip Mrs. McCain almost every day. They say that you can't even talk about Obama's children, but what is the first thing that the drive-by media does with Palin? They attack her through her daughter.

And about the claims that Palin's youngest son is actually her grandson, her daughter is 5 months pregnant and Trig is 4 months old. How do you figure that?
Flipski
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Her daughter is 17 and pregnant with a guy who is her boyfriend, who "doesn't want kids". YOu have to agree that that shows some lack of parenting.

Agent_86
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That isn't my point. My gripe is with the drive-by media who don't make Obama's family an issue, but they dig up any dirt they can find on Palin, no matter how obscure.

Agent_86
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Another point: Obama admits in his autobiography that when he was 17, he was skipping school, doing drugs, and coasting between highs. It has never been mentioned by the drive-by media.

SuperzMcShort
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Well, It's the same. According to the media, you can't rip Mrs. Obama, but they rip Mrs. McCain almost every day. They say that you can't even talk about Obama's children, but what is the first thing that the drive-by media does with Palin? They attack her through her daughter.


The media did rip Mrs. Obama, and then she started to act differently and they stopped ripping her because she was no longer doing the things that they had been calling her on before. Both his children seem nice enough, and they're hardly old enough to give any real insight into how he thinks but there already have been many appearances by them through the campaign trail even though they don't show a lot about Obama so I'm not sure where you get the whole untrue you can't even talk about them thing from.

And about the claims that Palin's youngest son is actually her grandson, her daughter is 5 months pregnant and Trig is 4 months old. How do you figure that?


It's an obviously untrue statement that has been seen as an obviously untrue statement since it was first made. I know that I heard it once, and then heard the other statement from a more reliable source and said, "oh, that makes a lot more sense". Anyone who still thinks that her daughter has already given birth isn't vary informed.
Flipski
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They "just play it like it is, and many [conservatives] don't like that".

Thats how it is with both sides of the issue, and thats how Politics are.

It definatley isnt fair but people will do what they need to to support their candidate.

Agent_86
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They "just play it like it is, and many [conservatives] don't like that".
Thats how it is with both sides of the issue, and thats how Politics are.
It definatley isnt fair but people will do what they need to to support their candidate.
Now, now. You liberals are very good at twisting the words of us conservatives, aren't you?
Flipski
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I understand that both sides twist and skew facts to better convince their audiences.

I agree that Liberals twis things to an extent. And I know you think so too But do you not agree that COnservatives do so to an equal extent? YOu have to agree to that. Its a normal technique to use. (exagerate the the negative about the opposition, and leave out the negative about your own side).

TotalReview
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Her daughter is 17 and pregnant with a guy who is her boyfriend, who "doesn't want kids". YOu have to agree that that shows some lack of parenting.


You can't blame it all on the parent. Also, how can her child determine how she will help lead this country? You are basically saying Obama's mother had "lack of parenting" as well.
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