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woody_7007
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I heard this rumour going round that there is a slight chance the wrold could nd next wednesday thanks to some scientists experimenting with a large hadron collider.

It is a staggering device, occupying a train-sized tunnel 18 miles long, buried 300ft underground, studded with gigantic, cathedral-sized ring-shaped detectors where collisions between packets of âheavyâ subatomic particles, âhadronsâ, will take place in the hope that the innermost workings of matter and energy will be revealed.

The LHC is, arguably, the most impressive machine ever built by Mankind


I got this info from this website

[url=http://www.zimbio.com/CERN+Hadron+Collider/articles/110/Large+Hadron+Collider+World+End+Next+Wednesday]

I have heard that the chance of this happening is one in 50 million.

According to the article on the website the earth will end in one of two ways. The first is a biblical style ending.Massive earthquake, Tsunamis and tornadoes followed by the end itslef.

The fabric of the planet itself would start to disappear, trillions of tonnes of rock, water, air and life sucked into a whirlpool of unimaginable force.



The other scenario is an instant death.

In an instant - about one-twentieth of a second - the entire Earth would simply vanish from space.

Less than two seconds later, the Moon would follow suit. Eight minutes later, the Sun would be ripped apart, followed by the rest of the planets in the solar system and onwards, a wave of destruction caused by a rent in the fabric of space itself, spreading out from our world at the speed of light.



Even though it is a one in 50 million chance. It is still not a chance i am willing to take. If we(man) can destroy the universe no matter how tiny the chance then surely this is knowledge we are better off noyt knowing. What do you think?
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iceburn
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I agree, the world isn't going to end wednesday, a mod should lock this

dizzyk
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the possibility of the mini blackholes (which is how the world MIGHT end) won't happen until around a month from now. Right now test runs of the Large Hadrion Collider and udnerway sending particles one way on the machine and then the other way. The scientists won't collide the particles for at least a month. So, the world won't end today (obviously) but there's still a CHANCE (SMALL as it may be) in about a month.

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Please note that the black holes that hopefully will be created by the collider are incredibly small. You can turn anything into a black hole if you squeeze it down enough, but these tiny black holes will not "suck the world" into them. Remember that all a black hole is, is just a very very dense object. A star that becomes a black hole does not affect anything beyond its original radius effect of gravitation. If our Sun were to turn into a black hole, we would not be sucked in because the Sun's mass would remain the same, therefore its gravitational pull on us would also remain the same.
The same would hold true for turning a subatomic particle into a black hole - it's mass is so small and the Chandrasekhar limit would be reached in such an unstable manner that it would have very little impact on its surroundings.

Owen135731
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wow, its wednesday and the world didnt end. what a surprise.

dizzyk
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Here's the thing. We can theorize what will happen should we create a mini black hole, but as we have never created one before it remains a theory and unless I'm mistaken at one point in time we all believed that the world was flat and were proven wrong. Sure mini black holes probably won't destory the universe but shit it would suck if this were another care of the eath being flat.

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Hmmm, but what if at the instant a microscopic black hole is created, it combined with the other black holes or particles around it and starts to grow exponentially?

So black holes are created based on density? Not overall mass? So they are basically created by the pressure placed on space. A large massive object will not create a black hole, while a small one of the same mass could. Okay, never mind, I'm starting to remember the things I learned about black holes lol.

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As it is now wednesday we have all survived! HOORAY!

As i made this thread i thought i would provide some inf o to what actually happened.

(All info quoted from this site, all credit goes to those reporters)



The world's largest atom smasher's first experiment went off today without a hitch, paving the way toward the recreation of post-big bang conditions

The part that best sums up the experiment is here

By creating hundreds of thousands of head-on collisions each second, physicists hope to understand the fiery conditions of the universe a trillionth of a second after the big bang.



Here is also some very interesting infoormation about what they were studying.

The findings could also help resolve some of the biggest mysteries in physics, such as the existence of one long-hypothesized particle called the Higgs bosonâ"or the "God particle"â"thought to be responsible for giving all other particles their mass.


I think that its great that it actually worked. The physisits will release their findings soon no doubt.

Here is a quote from an article on the same site.


This and other harrowingâ"and equally unlikelyâ"scenarios prompted a couple of independent scientists to sue this past spring to stop the atom smasher. So far they haven't succeeded, and the vast majority of the world's physicists are on board with the project.



Im still thanking my lucky stars this didnt happen.

Moegreche
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I don't think we need to theorize so much about black holes. Their existence and lifespans are quite well understood and have been for some time. Astronomers have gotten to observe Type II Supernovae as well as tons of other information from black holes during many stages of their existence.
As a side note, even the ancient Greeks knew the world was round. It was just that people came up with mythical metaphors for the end of the explored world and the fears they had about going there.

dizzyk
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I just worry that we shouldn't be so gun ho about doing things because we CAn do them, we should consider IF we should do them. Maybe I've read The Andromeda Strain or books like it too many times, but I don't want to die because some scientisit idiot decided because he could fuck up the wold he should.

Caution, that's all I want.

Flipski
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Ive taken a few Quantum mechanics classes and I think the things we will learn from this accelerator are great. I'm really excited to hear about the outcomes of many of the experiments that will be conducted.

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Well, the collider should be coming online in a few minutes...

The thing should take a few months to get to full power, so the truth is, we still have a few months to be worried about being sucked into a black hole...

woody_7007
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The experiment has already taken place earlier today. But you are right in that they will be repeating the tests over the next few months.

Flipski
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tomorrow on the news HEADLINE: "Europe has Vanished, Sucked into another dimension"

Agent_86
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Huh? I heard that it was going to take place at 12:00 local time...(It's 11:55 now)

But the EU scientists were going to test this thing with more and more power until they are sure that they can run it safely at full power.

Agent_86
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tomorrow on the news HEADLINE: "Europe has Vanished, Sucked into another dimension"
Not really. If the Earth were sucked into a black hole, the event would be so fast(because the black hole would be so close) that no one would even feel it.
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