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Twistedreality
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Should it be unconstitutional to Burn the flag?

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True_Blood_Master
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I have a beer in my hand and still even tipsy as i am know its wrong to burn our flag leave us if you do it.

Zootsuit_riot
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It's not wrong, but it's a pretty good way to protest. It gets more attention than standing outside a building with a bunch of signs.

Snizz19
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How is flag burning not wrong isnt it like treason and you go to prison i dont know for sure but i do think you go to prison

Zootsuit_riot
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How is flag burning not wrong isnt it like treason


If you go to prison for it, you should contact the local authority and give him/her a nice big slap in the face. It's deemed as freedom to protest and freedom of expression, which, last time I checked, is expressly listed in the Constitution. You know, Bill of Rights. Or did we go ahead and throw all that out too?
goatslayer
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Flag burning in any country is like the biggest threat insult you could ever do. If you burn the American flag your ass will get a beating of your life time seriously we Americans will kick some ass if we wanted to.

SuperzMcShort
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It's not. The flag is a metephoric symbol of the country. You respect the flag because you respect the county. Buy defiling the flag, you are showing your disrespect for the country.


I'm going to have to say that a persons freedom to burn that flag trumps anyones feelings about what burning that flag says to the world. That's why you can't stop anyone spewing out vile racist or homophobic speech, they have the freedom to their thoughts and beliefs whether or not they make me uncomfortable or not. The United States at least is a country founded and held together solely because we believe enough in the idea of freedom before all else. Why did we revolt against the British for things along the lines of creating a monopoly on tea when that very monopoly would reduce prices we would pay by 50%? We did it because we're such a diverse group of people that the only thing that can hold us together is an ideal such as freedom to do nearly anything we want to do. Now that freedom can't destroy other peoples freedoms, that's just natural, but there's no way that I'm going to needlessly support the restriction of somebodies freedoms because it makes you feel bad.
millahnna
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I've always found it amusing that a rabid patriot (for the record I'm ex-Navy) will get their undies in a bunch of a flag getting burned but not over a copy of the constitution getting similar treatment. I get the psychology of it -- for most people the symbol is more important (good or bad) than the words it is supposed to represent. That's just the way the human race is hard wired to some extent. But it still strikes me as ridiculous.

To add to SuperMcShortz's brilliant comment, I'll just say that the day we, as a nation here in the U.S., actually outlaw the burning of a U.S. flag is the day I stop being willing to defend our constitution with my life, if necessary. We barely still have our our Constitutional Freedoms as it is.

armorkas
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Hellyeah it should!! Do you know how disrespectful that is? I wouldn't do it if Osama Bin Laden was a flag (actually, I might....), because it's unpatriotic, and unconstitutional...I say we burn the poeple who burn flags, and call them burners of flags!!!

millahnna
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Sometimes it saddens me to think that when I volunteered to serve my country, people's right to be ignorant is part of what I was prepared to defend.

Venderman
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Of course. The flag is something that represents the country. Shouldn't be anything like a death penalty, just a fine and maybe jail time if they do it too many times.

turret
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Yeah I agree with jail time but the death penalty is going a bit far I think. I think it is funny when a American would burn there own flag cause they were born here. In Iraq they burn our flags all the time now it like a hobby.

Drace
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I think it is funny when a American would burn there own flag cause they were born here.


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Venderman
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He means it's funny that they insult America, yet they themselves are American.

N00BKiller
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its VERY offencive against the country that had its flag burned. i think it should NOT be allowed.

Socialist
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Hmm, interesting debate going on.

I support the right to burn flags. Flags represent patriotism and nationalism, which lead ordinary people to support horrific invasions such as the War in Iraq, which has seen over a million people killed. The flag of America in the middle east is a symbol of imperialism and war-mongering, of the absolute destruction of Iraq and Afghanistan.

These are not my wars, they are opposed by the vast majority of people in the world, and they are perpetuated by the rich and powerful in society to gain control of oil in the region and to establish a military presence in the area to prevent rising economic rivals such as China and India from becoming potential threats to America's hegemony.

Flags are used to unite people along arbitrary lines, and to say that "in this little sphere here, we are all the same; while them out there, they are different somehow." This is fundamentally flawed, and I have far more in common with those around the world who are against war and against racism, than I do with "my own countrymen and women" who send people to their deaths in a far-off country, who strip public funding and and liberties, and bail out wall street even though there is apparently not enough money to give universal health cover.

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