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Twistedreality
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Should it be unconstitutional to Burn the flag?

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acesixteen
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hahaha, damn! thwarted again by uncle sam.

heres another arguement though. if we can burn flags, why cant we smoke cigarettes in a bar, or eat trans fats?

in california they are banning trans fats in public foods,

shouldnt it be my right to eat or smoke whatever or wherever i want within reason?

Drace
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Its unhealthy? The reasons as to why they are not allowed are completly different then that of flag burning.

acesixteen
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well whats the reason? so what if its unhealthy? i think flag burning is unhealthy, ever inhale burning flag? eh?

im just saying theres alot of things we cant do that take away from that american ideal of "freedom"

flag burning and greasy burger eating included

SuperzMcShort
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The difference between flag burning and smoking in public places is that one is a demonstration of belief, and the other (through second hand smoke) physically harms everyone around you. I'm not sure if I agree with banning trans fats (even though they really suck I'd go with requiring labeling and public health campaigns over outright bans), but that's probably for another thread.

Pedspog
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well whats the reason? so what if its unhealthy? i think flag burning is unhealthy, ever inhale burning flag? eh?
im just saying theres alot of things we cant do that take away from that american ideal of "freedom"
flag burning and greasy burger eating included


If you want to eat a greasy burger, go do that. You'll just have to make it yourself. Trans fats are being removed beacause of the increasing obesity in our youth.

If you want to burn a flag, go do that, just don't get caught.

It's not about the flag itself, but what is on that flag. for example, The United State's flag; 50 stars, representing the 50 states, and 13 stripes representing the orignal 13 colonies. You burn that flag, then you burn the entire foundation this country was built upon. And people will take offense.

In this country, and many others, freedom does not mean you can do absolutely anything you want (i.e. burn a flag). Of course there will be limitations. Freedom means that you Don't have to do anything you don't want to. You can go where ever you want. But due to the society we live in today, there are limitations.
Twistedreality
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It's not about the flag itself, but what is on that flag. for example, The United State's flag; 50 stars, representing the 50 states, and 13 stripes representing the orignal 13 colonies. You burn that flag, then you burn the entire foundation this country was built upon. And people will take offense.


well said.

how will banning the burning of flags improve the condition of the country?
Pedspog
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how will banning the burning of flags improve the condition of the country?


Do you mean in the United States? or any country in general?

And flag burning, in essence, is already illegal.

I personally haven't heard of anyone in America burning any flags, so I can't say whether or not it will change anyhting.
As for other countries, that would have to depend on the country. For instances like Iraq and Afghanistan where you see news reports of people burning the United States' flag, those are isolated incidents. Those people most likely are those who do not follow the conventional rules and the rules of their country.
Twistedreality
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so you're saying that it will deter extremists?

Pedspog
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No, I didn't say that at all. To quote myself...

...those are isolated incidents. Those people most likely are those who do not follow the conventional rules and the rules of their country.


Since those people do not follow the rules, they won't care what rules or laws are set in place. Those exremists, as you call them, will continue to do so regardless.
Twistedreality
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right.

So here's another thing to think about:

is it possible that banning the burning of the flag will become something people will do just to see if they can get away with it?

lil_gangsta72
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I think people who burn flags just cause they just cause wars which is no help at all

Drace
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If they ban burning flags, people will protest, by burning flags.

Eshploded
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Well, the government wouldn't be too happy about it, and may just try to find some loopholes in the law to search the dudes house or beat him him because he was protesting illegally.

Twistedreality
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But that would be unconstitutional. So how would you know if someone burnt a flag in private?

Drace
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Well, the government wouldn't be too happy about it, and may just try to find some loopholes in the law to search the dudes house or beat him him because he was protesting illegally.


A government cares about a single guys action why?
The government is not very emotional, lol.
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