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Communist
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who thinks communism is good, bad , or misunderstood?
i think communism was currupt by that monster Stalin an therefore, it became hard for that form of government to be truely used as Marx had intended it.

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Drace
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how come I saw multiple Communist party members running for president.


Who would those be?

Overthrow the goverment?


Capitalist governments have already been overthrown a multiple times...For f's sakes...

Oh, and free health care is no good.


Cubas was free and was the best. Back up with some dam sources.
And it was enough to double life expectancy from the shit in tsarist Russia.
Itachi2641747
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Look, I have no intention to argue with some one who constantly uses "for f's sake" or "****". My reasons are: Free health care causes you to make appointments months ahead.

Many governments have been overthrown, and I don't think some "devil's advocate" who walks around calling himself a rebel or revolutionary, starting fights over the internet, and generaly acting like a poor debate opponent would start a bloody civil war, and trust me, it would be bloody.

I'm going to be honest. I didn't vote, and so didn't see them myself, but have heard from voting friends that there were multiple.

Now please, lets start debating civily, instead of being crude because we're unknown.

Drace
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Look, I have no intention to argue with some one who constantly uses "for f's sake" or "****".


Im sorry but I been hearing these questions from people who have no understand at all of the theory and just raise up strawmen arguments that are just so annoying to answer a billion times.

Many governments have been overthrown, and I don't think some "devil's advocate" who walks around calling himself a rebel or revolutionary, starting fights over the internet, and generaly acting like a poor debate opponent would start a bloody civil war, and trust me, it would be bloody.


Anyone who has participated or advocated a revolution is by definition, a revolutionary. I'm not a rebel kid trying to act cool here. And yes I'm aware it will be bloody.

I'm going to be honest. I didn't vote, and so didn't see them myself, but have heard from voting friends that there were multiple.


There actually is a communist party running in the elections. But even so. If it were to win it would just signal that a revolution is about to happen. The party leader wouldn't just be another president. He would work start a revolution with the power. Even in those communist parties info, they say that they call for a revolution.
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I'd actually have to agree with Drace for once about something in this thread. The arguments often tend to be straw men, backed with preconceptions of ZOMG COMMUNISM IS EVIL rather than actual theory or historical fact. Please, people, back up your arguments with some factual appeals instead of generalizations or emotional appeals.

Itachi2641747
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I'm sorry, but a revolution is not likly. Those who would die for communism are few and far between. Would you die for it?

Drace
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I'm sorry, but a revolution is not likly. Those who would die for communism are few and far between.


Revolutions do happen from time to time. Its just not likely to happen in the US in the recent years... Theres many countries though

Would you die for it?

I'd fight for it. Of course I wouldn't want to die, but that's a risk.
Itachi2641747
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I would die for it. I would kill for it. I would burn for it. I would be burned for it. I'm a Russian, and am not afraid to die for a thing that influential. I don't want to see another country go down.

America is a smooth-going country, and is not under as much of a threat.

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America is a smooth-going country


As far as the people and living goes.

But if you check out are economy, you might re-phrase that a bit.
Drace
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I would die for it. I would kill for it. I would burn for it. I would be burned for it. I'm a Russian, and am not afraid to die for a thing that influential. I don't want to see another country go down.


Die for what?
Oh and do you speak Russian? I'm trying to learn
Itachi2641747
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I speak it, and would die for a cause that is against Communism(sorry). You seem like a cool guy, but I must go and finish a college paper, so до ÑÐ²Ð¸Ð´Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ and do widzenia(polish).

Communist
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Itachi, you either are brian washed by U.S anti-communist propaganda, or you benefit from the buissness world.

Drace
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Itachi, you either are brian washed by U.S anti-communist propaganda, or you benefit from the buissness world.


Be nice...
Communist
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I understand you're Russian Itachi? I'll overlook the possiblilies that indicate you're joking, BUT Russia set up a very, very bad example of communism. Stalin, who has more Capitalist qualities in his character because he stole all of the power for himself, killed thousand and thousands of old-school leninists just because they didn't follow every aspect of his government policies.
Anyone who censors the public, and kills his own comrades without just cause, can only call themselves a communist; they truely are terrorists.

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If pure Capitalism does lead to just a few wealthy elites hording money, why do we consider that a bad thing?
Consider the capitalist giants of the late 19th and early 20th centuries: Carnegie, Rockefeller, Morgan. Just a few people controlled most of the wealth in the world, and it was also one of the most prosperous times for the United States.
Capitalist giants create jobs, have enough cash to directly influence the economy if needed, and have a vested interest in the well-being of the free market. Several times the U.S. government has been advised by, and in some cases financially sustained by these giants of industry.
Ultimately, more wealth is generated across the board and everyone's standard of living I assume would increase to some degree.

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Just a few people controlled most of the wealth in the world, and it was also one of the most prosperous times for the United States.


Besides the crap factory conditions, ridiculous wages, and children working instead of getting educated? Sounds prosperous to me.

Prosperity of a country cannot be measured by those who are ensured to be happy; one has to look at the whole of society, including those who are knocked down and simply swept aside by the majority.
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