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thepyro222
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Juat thought I'd revive this topic. What does the AG universe think?

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Agent_86
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I think we should go back to public hangings. That way the criminal could be paraded out in the streets for everyone to see. That would set an example to everyone - "Don't (insert really bad crime here) or you'll be next."

samy
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I think we should go back to public hangings. That way the criminal could be paraded out in the streets for everyone to see. That would set an example to everyone - "Don't (insert really bad crime here) or you'll be next."


hahahahaha...i wouldn't complain...i wouldn't support it but you know
theone99
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As Ghandi said

"If it were truly an eye for an eye, the world would be blind"

And also it's not quick and painless, they make parts of your system shut-off slowly, by "Meds."

And it should be violated and taken away because wouldnt you think death is an easy way out?

99 years in prison in a 7X7 room, or death?

jonnypants23
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Id probliy take death lol.

deth4
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id rather be dead. besides, if they do the electric chair it would be an almost instantaneous death.

Agent_86
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I'd rather get life.

I'd live till I'm 85 with all expenses paid. I'd never have to work another day in my life.

theone99
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id rather be dead. besides, if they do the electric chair it would be an almost instantaneous death.


I beleive thats outlawed?
Agent_86
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There's I think 3 or 4 states that still use the chair, but most states use either the gas chamber or the drug coctail nowadays...

jonnypants23
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beleive thats outlawed?


In the whole world or only america?
theone99
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America.

Whole world i still beleive on the middle east side they do the hand chop-off thing if they ctach you stealing.

Agent_86
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Whole world i still believe on the middle east side they do the hand chop-off thing if they catch you stealing.
If the US went back to that kind of punishment, the crime rate would plummet.
theone99
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If the US went back to that kind of punishment, the crime rate would plummet.


For sure..but then that REALLY violates the 8th amendment.
samy
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For sure..but then that REALLY violates the 8th amendment.


Depends how you would define cruel i agree with you but i can see how some people might not also would the crime plumeting make up for the "violation"?
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Electric chair isn't necessarily instantaeneous death, actually. It's more appropriate to say two or three minutes.

If the US went back to that kind of punishment, the crime rate would plummet.


I'd put money on saying it wouldn't. There's a very big "it could happen to anybody except me" mentality going on, particularly in those who have a propensity to criminal behavior.

In general I'm not a huge fan of the death penalty due to the gross imperfections of the legal system- in the context of, say, America, I would argue that this in fact tends to perpetuate certain social injustices.

However elsewhere, I can think of places where the death penalty may be appropriate. Consider the case of the Bali Bombers- if I were to weigh up between continued hype and exposure of separatist sentiment to sympathetic elements within the Indonesian media as they languished in prison, or cut that off short and make them immediate martyrs while they mouth off right until the moment they died, I would support (as happened), their speedy execution.
theone99
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Depends how you would define cruel i agree with you but i can see how some people might not also would the crime plumeting make up for the "violation"?


Chopping-off a hand is cruel and UNUSUAL.

8th amendment.

The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights which prohibits the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, and cruel and unusual punishments. The phrases employed are taken from the English Bill of Rights of 1689. In Robinson v. California, 370 U.S. 660 (1962), the Supreme Court of the United States said that the Cruel and Unusual Punishments Clause is applicable to the states via the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court has not explicitly ruled on whether the Excessive Bail and Excessive Fines Clauses apply to the states.

(link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution)

Unusual is like burning, or hanging or anything dealing with death in a way.


Cruel to many is harsh..to Chuck Norris..nothing is cruel to him.
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