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megarock81
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Wht do we have religion? Because to me it seems that we only have religion to comfort you or the past. Religion also seems that it is supposed to heal sins. How do we know all of this without some proof? (I'm a christian) Like do we have any bones of adam and eve? I'm just trying to get answers to questions. Thank you!

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Devoidless
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Look at you, showing good Christian beliefs! Well, kinda. Which are really just general guide lines to not being a pompous ass. Anywho..

I agree with Moe. I am sure that in the next couple hundred years something else will come along and change major things, shattering notions. Not sure what it could be, but neither were the ancient civilizations before they found them. As long as humans are around and examing their environment new develpments are going to be made.

Asherlee
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I glanced over the website you just posted, but what am I looking for specifically?

ubertuna
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Religion was created by monarchs in medival times for three reasons, all of which are quite obselete in the modern world:

1. A reason to fight wars
2. Something to unite a country
3. A coping mechanism for lower-class individuals.

nothing more.

religion is pointless and outdated in a modern society.

Devoidless
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No, wrong. Religon was along way before monarchies were even part of the equation.

There has been proof of the nomadic peoples in the Fertile Cresent having deities they worshipped for things such as good crops and weather, giving birth to a son, etc.. And I am sure there are examples even before that.

Asherlee
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Oh religion of some form dates back to early humans! Those items listed are justified through religion, though.

ubertuna
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by religion i meant the modern christian monotheastic form of religion.

Asherlee
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ahhh hhaaa! Gotcha!

Moegreche
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Mmmm, I'm pretty sure religion existed before medieval times.

izapora
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the site gives statistics and there is one on religion

and yes, ancient Mesopotamians practiced religion and it's probable that they had been doing so sometime before Mesopotamia was "civilized"

as for being fallacious, i believe time proves and disproves, every philosophy is tested by time, and as a common principle, not just a Christian, or whatever you will, principle, truth prevails...because although for a time it (a philosophy or religion) may be practiced and believed it will ultimately be proved or disproved. now i'm not going to sit here and tell you every facet of every religion is 100%, but i don't think you can personally tell me you agree with every facet of atheism, which also has quite a contrast of philosophies as well. I personally as a Christian will say that Christianity is quite a trip...people within Christianity don't even agree with each other, and i feel many of the principles of Christianity are modern adaptions for a comfortable life. BUT i believe Christianity at it's core belief in it's original text (arabic, greek, and latin) has yet to be disproved by science or other philosophy. only contested with equal uncertainty

Asherlee
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You toss everyone into a category of some type of religion. I personally do not associate myself to anything, not even atheism.

But it's kind of hard to understand what you're getting at. I'm sorry I just can't follow.

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Here's an interesting paradox, it has a lot of different names, I usually call it the Conjunction of Beliefs Paradox (the actual paradox is a bit different, I'm altering it slightly so it's applicable to religion only).

You believe in Christianity, which has certain beliefs: A, B, C, ... and so on. It's true that you believe A and B and C, but you admit that not everything in Christianity is true. So here's the paradox:
You believe A, B, C, etc... but you know some of these beliefs are false. So while you believe the conjunction of {A,B,C,D...) you also don't believe the conjunction.
Ugh, this is really hard to explain with text only. Does it make any sense?

izapora
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my intention in every post is to explain my belief in the legitamacy of supernatural religion, not just Christianity, but all of them, such as Islam, Hinduism, and so on. Although being a Christian I believe they are very different, but that's a different topic


and you don't affiliate with anything?
am i being narrow minded? or does that make you an atheist, just by definition?

Asherlee
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So, is it possible to believe in something and not believe in it at the same time?

Moegreche
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Not one particular thing, rather a set of beliefs. You believe your set of beliefs are true, but your human and you know that some of your beliefs aren't true. It is the same sort of contradiction that you just mentioned, though.

Asherlee
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Okay, I think I get it. Interesting paradox.

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