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Crazy_Chris_84
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In these troubling times we see in the news that more and more people are losing their jobs. Hence, we see a rise in criminal activity. There was a news article that just recently caught my attention in the Wall Street Journal, âBusinesses Say Theft by Their Workers Is Up.â Here is the link to the article if you wish to see it, just copy and paste it in your search bar:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122896381748896999.html

The article is not the main topic, but it serves as more of a reference to this discussion.

Is stealing for survival good or is it still considered as plain stealing no matter what the motive?

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Canuck
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Neither are bad... if he is a legal immigrant, and has a visa to live and work in the country he has chosen to migrate to, he should have no problems getting into the medical industry, so I don't see how he would be turned down with all the necessary education AND a visa to live and work. In fact here in the UK I see more Indian doctors than actual British doctors.


In my exert, he is a legal immigrant. He has a visa too.

The UK must have some pretty neat system of work, but in Canada, and I think in the U.S. as well, which is where this situation takes place, you have to pass another 2 years of tests so they know you aren't "off the rocker", and even then you might not get a job.
Hypermnestra
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What makes stealing from the rich more acceptable?

I never said I liked it, but at least if you steal from the rich it won't affect them as much as if you'd stolen from the poor or middle class.

The national average of the unemployed in America is over 10%, so there's a lot of competition, and if people are poor, they can't go to college and therefore have a hard time finding decent jobs (even plumbers are checked for their grades in High school now)

Yes, but until they can get a job they will just have to live off food stamps and stuff. They can survive until they get a job. Maybe they should've stayed in high school, eh?
Canuck
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[quote]The national average of the unemployed in America is over 10%, so there's a lot of competition, and if people are poor, they can't go to college and therefore have a hard time finding decent jobs (even plumbers are checked for their grades in High school now)


Yes, but until they can get a job they will just have to live off food stamps and stuff. They can survive until they get a job. Maybe they should've stayed in high school, eh?[/quote]

There are lots of reasons they would not have stayed in high school, or why they would not be able to get a job sufficient to sustain themselves. This is especially the case if we are talking about every single person in this situation and not the odd hobo because not every job is worth it.

But yeah, I think that food stamps are a pretty useful way to sustain yourself until you get back on track.
DoctorHouseNCIS
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Roflmfaoxyz.

Lol. Be nice, Hypermnestra

Stealing in what way

Sarthra21
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Only stealing essentials from people who do not need them is right.
Example: If I'm a hobo, and I steal one of Donald Trump's fridges, it should be alright. He does not need all that food, and I asked him for some food before I stole his fridge. He did not need the food within, so I took it. Now if I stole his giant reserves of money and made him a hobo, that would be wrong.

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i kinda think that stealing for survival is good but for yourself or jst bcz yuh cant afford it is really bad unless is something tht cant really be seen like one crayon or something like tht but ive never dne it n never will

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If it is steal or die the person who is being stolen from has effectively the choice-the person dies, or you give them the item. Unless the person cannot afford to lose the item they should give them the item so either:no one has any objections, you're stealing from a really selfish person who probably deserves to be stolen from or you are stealing from someone who can't afford to lose it which is a bad thing

kingjac11
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Only if you need the item otherwise it is just no need to steal.It is ok to steal food if you need it but not something like a phone.

Einfach
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Only if you need the item otherwise it is just no need to steal.It is ok to steal food if you need it but not something like a phone.

Where do you draw the line? Needs vs. wants? What are needs but strong wants?
2423898
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Great reply, stealing for survival is ok.

Wyrzen
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I think it is too difficult to truly come up with a set in stone rule saying stealing is/not okay for survival. I personally view it as wrong, but I think its more basis-by-basis oriented or the like.

Coolrunner30
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Depends in what situation you are in? Of course stealing is classed as bad, but if you think of survival in the case of Robin Hood, where he stole for the poor? Is it right for the needy to steal for their benefit?

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the case of Robin Hood


in the case of robin hood (i guess you mean to story of robin hood not the real people) i wont say that stealing is good. the poor in his story have no real need for what he brings them. they can stay alive whitout the help of robin hood also.

i wold say if the choise = steal or die. then stealing isn't that bad anymore.
bravehawk204
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Id steal to survive if there was anarchy

thebluerabbit
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stealing is never good. but i would defently accept someone stealing as his last resort. i mean, i think almost anyone would steal when they are about to die. i would definitely let someone steal from me if i knew he really needed it

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