I agree with you Woody_7007, Isreal should just contend with problems inside of it's borders, and let others take care of them, since they got their homeland that way
The missles are inside their boarders. Not to be insensative but one or the other is going to have to die (tho whole group) or this will repeat, and repeat and repeat.
[quote]Just because Israel can win the war doesn't mean they have the right to do this. Hitler cold have won WW2, but would it have been right?
Huh yes Hitler could of taken over the world, mostly if he didnt try to take it on all at once, and if the U.S. would of gotten involved later. Hmmm a world where Germany rules us. Couldnt possibly happen haha too much rebellion to control. Not a good thing when you get a black man and an asian man together with an alliance =p
Honestly, people are making too big of a deal over this.
I mean, i don't really care if they kill the Hamas and take some citizens with them, it's not my problem. But i also don't care if they are left alone, because by the time they become a world threat Israel won't be the only country attacking them.
Well, the Palestinians are complaining that Israel is using gas against their people. I wouldn't put it above Hamas to gas their own land and blame it on Israel...
All I have to say to you is you've been watching or reading too much biased news.
but then, do they know it wasn't Hamas doing it? We can't really know for sure but that's really messed up. I doubt Israeli sodiers are doing that
Hamas feel very strongly about returning their land, I seriously doubt they would kill their own people. Listen to both sides before you post.
to say nothing of Hamas terrorists attacking Israel... and human rights? Israel IS the one sending humanitarian aid into Gaza after all. I don't see anything about Hamas doing that for the victims of their rockets. Oh, wait, they WANT civilians to die.
Hamas were simply retaliating. Why terrorists? Because the media makes Israel look like the victim? Israel is not sending aid to Gaza, aid trucks were destroyed by Israeli soldiers and there are pictures proving that. Don't try to blame it on Hamas because it is obviously airstrikes that are doing most of the killing. You can't deny that Israel is breaking international laws, phosphorus is illegal.
Here are some pictures:
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These the aid trucks you were talking about?
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The effect of these illegal weapons.
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More dead children.
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Israeli children writing a message on the rockets that will soon be launched.
The way I see it, the whole Middle East should be one of those "Everyone outta the pool!" kinda situations! Send them all to New Zealand or something. The whole thing is silly. Details aside, the only reason they've been fighting for so long is because of the "Sacred Land" and religious differences.
If you ask me, the whole thing is just silly. Everyone's to blame.
@ CoNsuRaL: That argument could stagnate very quickly because it goes in circles. The pro-Israeli side could say that Hamas has been doing the same thing over the past few years.
@ Kowboy: You don't understand religion very well do you?
... those pics that skyla just put out.... thats just messed up. i've never seen that much graphic things in real life. man, ive seen a few things bad, but not nearly as bad as that. just makes u apreciate life more.... even if u dont got the best one
yea but before ive even seen this, ive been with palistine and...
@ Kowboy that was the palistinians land and should not be moved from there. now they are even tryn to destroy the dome on the rock. why would they just send all of those people to new zealand or something else? its either gonna be incredibly controversial or inhuman to send others to a different land.
That argument could stagnate very quickly because it goes in circles. The pro-Israeli side could say that Hamas has been doing the same thing over the past few years.
In this context however the Israelis are clearly in the wrong. I will say again, the Qassam attacks have only killed 15 since they began in 2000. So far over 900 Palestinians have died 40% of them women and children. Its not exactly like for like is it?
970+ killed including 311 children, 4400+ wounded including 2200+ women and children, 1 million without water and electricity.
Other facts:
Israel has most likely used phosphorous bombs, which are illegal. Israel is denying medical supplies into Gaza. They have intentionally not treated civilians with injuries. They have denied the Red Cross access. They are not allowing foreign journalists in Gaza either.
All of this shows who the real criminals are. Israel has been occupying Gaza since 1967 and treated the civilians like garbage. And the world wonders why Hamas exists...
@the listman: dude, do you even watch the news? Israel is actually sending aid into The gaza strip. and, There is just as much a chance that Hamas killed their own shields (read: people) and blamed it on Israel.
and @ everyone: yes, it is wrong. war is wrong. And Hamas shouldn't have shot rockeets into israel, israel shouldn't be killing palestinians... Hamas has broken the cease-fire multiple times.
dropped arguments: 1: Hamas can't win. they started this, no one can contest that. they just can't beat Israel and they started this anyway.
2: Hamas is a bunch of terrorists: they can't be in the right. they don't even have a real war against Israel, just random terrorist attacks.
Pretty soon all the rest of the world will feel so sorry for Israel that they will supply them with troops, and then Hamas will go away, casulaties will be counted up, and then everyone will continue with life as it was. That's how it always goes, Israel gets into trouble and then the whole world shows up to help them, pathetic..
Pretty soon all the rest of the world will feel so sorry for Israel that they will supply them with troops, and then Hamas will go away, casulaties will be counted up, and then everyone will continue with life as it was. That's how it always goes, Israel gets into trouble and then the whole world shows up to help them, pathetic
I see where you are coming from. And at times I agree, but WE as in the people who are all the way over here, stting in our rooms on Armor Games typing, and arguing about something, that we do not have FULL details on. Most if not all of the statements people make, are uselly propoganda, I mena have you seen the news?
Israel and Hamas are only showing what THEY want us/world to see. For example:
Israel....they only show us, scanned video footage cought by the reporters. So they scan it over, then let it be out in the public, or keep it hiddin' so therefor, they must be hgiding something right?
Hamas...they were only showing us, footage of civilans getting killed, and taken to the hospital, so that the world would think that Israel was doing ALL the harm, but on the other hand, they were the saviours?
It's all propoganda, but to the people in the middle, it's HELL! There by, should this thread not focus on FACT, and the people who just want to live, not who's fault it is.
