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skater_kid_who_pwns
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Allright, so here is the background story on this....

Every day at lunch, Me and a few of my freinds have 5 minute debates. We make a topic one day, go home and reaserch it, and defend our points the next day.

So the one that was the most contravercial, was is a harpoon considered a bullet?

Now, I say Yes it is. A bullet by deffinition is a projectial shot from a gun.

So, do you tihnk I am right or wrong?

THERE IS NO RIGHT AWNSER!

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Graham
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"No, they are not rocket propelled bullets."

how so? normal bullets can already have exploding tips on-contact

thisisnotanalt
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how so? normal bullets can already have exploding tips on-contact

"Rocket-propelled" does not mean tat it goes boom. It means that the projectile is propelled by a rocket. Bazooka rockets are small missiles, I think.
Devoidless
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A bazooka is a rocket/missle launcher. Because it launches...you know, missles or rockets.

Let's put it this way... If you can't interchange the two, they normally aren't even close to being the same.

A harpoon is a bullet.
A bullet is a harpoon.

See, doesn't work. A bullet is in no way a harpoon.

Parsat
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Bazooka rockets are missiles because they are projectiles. By definition a missile entails any projectile. The reason why a harpoon is not considered a bullet is because it is large, its shape is not round or cylindrically pointed, and it is not customarily fired from small arms. Bullets are also not barbed or spearlike, we call smaller spear-like projectiles "arrows," "darts," or "bolts."

Parsat
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Devoidless: No, the analogy is a false one if one of the items is a specific type of another item. You can say that a square is a rectangle, but you cannot say that a rectangle is a square. Your analogy would fail if in fact a harpoon is in fact a specific type of bullet.

Devoidless
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Oh gawd, specifics for serious?

Fine.

A sharpened spear fired by the release of pressurized CO2 is a shaped metal slug housed inside a casing fired by the ignition of gunpowder.
{Insert reverse}

'K. Better?

RugganBor
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Absolutley not! How could you even consider that?

knight_34
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A sharpened spear fired by the release of pressurized CO2 is a shaped metal slug housed inside a casing fired by the ignition of gunpowder.


Now that's the specific analogy. Harpoons are not bullets! Hurray!
A shaped metal slug is not a sharpened spear.

Hmmm well a harpoon could be used as a bullet and a projectile as the same time. It's basically two in one.


Nope.

Bullets = Are projectiles.

We can launch harpoons from specially made/modified harpoon launchers and we can throw them from hand. Just because they can be launched from a harpoon launcher which can be a rifle, does not mean they are bullets. The rifles which are used are specially modified/made to launch harpoons.

A harpoon is a projectile but it is not a bullet.

So it is not a bullet.
Souverain
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A harpoon is not a bullet.It is a projectile but not a bullet.A bullet is a (usually)small and 2 parted projectile with a casing and the actuall bullet. And for those who say that its a bullet just because it is fired out of a gun that is wrong,or do you call water if its fired out of a water pistol?

knight_34
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.It is a projectile but not a bullet.A bullet is a (usually)small and 2 parted projectile with a casing and the actuall bullet.


The bullet actually is separate from the casing which is referred to as the cartridge. The bullet is not the cartridge.
afroninja1723
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nope it's just a shootable spear

Parsat
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Devoidless: Don't misinterpret me. All I did was say that that is a logical fallacy. It would take the form:

If A is B but B is not A,
Then A is not B.

As you can see, the conclusion and the antecedent are directly contradictory. It may work for this case where A is a bullet and B is a harpoon, but that is a coincidence for this fallacy.

Zega
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If A is B but B is not A,
Then A is not B.

Try to make some sense... Please?
tennisman24
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nope it's just a shootable spear


Yes we know that but is it a bullet?
Zega
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Yes we know that but is it a bullet?


Look, he said Nope. Read more carefully.
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