Before I begin, I'll state for the record that while I acknowledge the complexities of debates on abortion and the intrinsic insufficiency in attempts to delineate what should be deemed a legal right and what is murder, I am not fond of the rhetoric nor the actions of pro-life activists. This would serve as a good example why.
It has certainly not escaped anybody's notice that the shooting occured in Church. I will go further to point out the hypocrisy in using murder to purportedly prevent or denounce that which is deemed murder, though this should be entirely clear to you already!
It has furthermore not escaped the notice of the author of the article linked to earlier that despite being a "eaceful" organisation, the founder of pro-life activist group "Operation Rescue" could not resist the opportunity to air his hostile (and insensitive) views. And look, even Westboro Baptist Church got in on the action!
Therefore it is my hope that despite the significant loss to womens' health services that this signifies, that this event may elevate Dr. Tiller to a state of martyrdom, thus strengthening the momentum of (for lack of a better term) morally liberal movements.
A group of soldiers are ordered by their general to burn down a village & kill everyone there. Who's reponsible for the villagers deaths, the soldiers who have to obey orders, or the general?
nice logic trap
they both are, the general for issuing the orders, and the soilders for commiting them. it is allowed in the us military to resist orders that risk the murder of innocent civillians. dunno what countries you guys are from, as when ever i try to to go someones profile, my comp freezes
They state he was doing things way worse behind those doors than what was done to him. I think people should do what they want to.
It was getting to the point that they were discussing abortion's morality. Did this guy deserve to die? Is the pro-life community to blame for this or just one man? These are the relevant questions. No to both, by the way. Just saying, if people want to discuss abortion, I've seen some really good arguments in that thread.
Well, the doctor was doing abortions. By your own logic, there's apparently nothing wrong with that.
Or with sexual offenders assaulting women. Or children. Or serial killers. They're all just doing what they want to do, after all.
nice logic trap
Meh, I didn't think it was so great. Point is, everyone blames the doctors who perform the operation, but the majority of the public outcry don't blame the women who actually make the call. I find that odd.
Because Alt will cruuuush youuuuu~ ------ I'm with Hidden on this one- the woman was the one asking for the abortion, and the poor man was just doing what he had to to make money.
Meh, I didn't think it was so great. Point is, everyone blames the doctors who perform the operation, but the majority of the public outcry don't blame the women who actually make the call. I find that odd.
I'd liken it to the 'guns don't kill people, criminals kill people' argument. The abortion doctors being the 'guns' and the women who choose to have abortions as the 'criminals'. The doctors or 'guns' are just a means to an end, so as Hidden rightly said, it's odd blame is attached to the doctors.
I'm completely pro-life, but this was still way over the top! I don't think that murdering an unarmed doctor inside a church was really the best way to front the cause. Oh well, the count is still about ten million to one, with fetuses on top.
ya, I'm pro-life, and this doctor did sum bad stuff, but killing him wasn't the answer. I was totally against what he did, but its not like we had to kill him to solve that.... and why am i saying this, because the media is targeting all pro-life people. They are blaming all of us for what some lunatic did. And to make this better, I live in Kansas, near the church where he was killed. Its not fun being in the middle of something we didn't know was going to happen, and then getting blamed for it.
All views invite extremism. . .this is a prime example. That is all.
Not to say that we shouldn't have views simply because someone takes them to an extreme (not arguing, only adding on ). I'd be a fool to deny that there are some Christians that go to an extreme. But I won't let them ruin the fun for me.
