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[url]http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=832329[/url]

Yes, I'm submitting this because I don't see any currently active threads on the issue :P

I'll just leave two statements that probe a little deeper than face value:

a) Exactly what motivates the military's policy here? One must admit that "don't ask, don't tell" is definitely less discriminatory than "search and destroy", but are there any grounds for the military to somehow be run with standards separate from the rest of civilised society?

b) On an individual level regardless of the above, is Choi's position compromised beyond repair? Has he sacrificed his military career for the sake of a political campaign? It would most definitely be construed as an act of defiance against authority and policy.

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insertwittynamehere
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And you pick which things are true in the bible... how? I mean, if you can doubt one section of it, doesn't that put the rest of it into question? It's not as though it comes with footnotes to say "These parts might not be true."


That isn't what I really meant...

I just don't know how to explain it, but if God stood before me today and told me that homosexuals are evil, I would still ask him why. :/
GamesArmor
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He's Homosexual. Why does he need to be discharged? The whole thing is just stupid in my opinion.

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He is supposed to be discharged because of the American militaries "Don't ask, don't tell" policy (Wiki Desciption). Whether or not that policy is really nessecary is the question I see here.

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homosexuality is strictly against the religion.

being anti gay isnt part of our religion


Try not to contradict yourself.

Anyway, 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is unnecessary. Also, if someone is openly hetero in the military, then that openly hetero person should also be discharged - he is 'telling.'

The double standards are pitiful.
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I don't think he should be fired beacuse he is gay. If he hasn't broken any rules, codes, or laws then he should stay on the National Guard.

It's probably just that people don't feel comfortable sleeping in the same bunk with a guy who might have an interest in them. They separate men and women for that reason. And they can't put him with women, that would be worse. They kind of have their hands tied as far as what the public wants and what the soldiers want.

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Anyway, 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is unnecessary. Also, if someone is openly hetero in the military, then that openly hetero person should also be discharged - he is 'telling.'


In the case of homosexuals though some people would be uncomfortable having to sleep in close proximity and such. I'm not trying to defend the "Don't ask, don't tell" thing, just pointing that out.
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The US army is Christian, that's why. You can say what ever you like about what ever religion you are, but when a Christian Priest does group prayer, and it's MANDITORY, then they are enforcing the religion. And as the US Army holds higher standards such as, No Criminals, No Aldultury, No Oral or Anal Sex, No Sex durring war time, etc... Then having a policy of no Gays, doesn't seem so strange.

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DO YOu MEan He Get Fired FOr Being Gay?

kielzanie
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Try not to contradict yourself.

I didnt contradict myself? Homosexuality is strictly against the religion, but again, that doesnt mean that we are anti- gay. We dont start anything with gay people, it is just against our religion. You even said that it isnt part of our religion to be anti gay.
and being anti-gay isn't exactly a major part of any religion,

Its just against our religion to be gay. it isnt in our religion that set up rallies against gay people, rite?

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The US army is Christian, that's why. You can say what ever you like about what ever religion you are, but when a Christian Priest does group prayer, and it's MANDITORY, then they are enforcing the religion. And as the US Army holds higher standards such as, No Criminals, No Aldultury, No Oral or **** Sex, No Sex durring war time, etc... Then having a policy of no Gays, doesn't seem so strange.

Great thing there's something called a separation of state and religion... but that's completely unrelated, ofcourse.

And I strongly believe that something from someone's personal life shouldn't matter at all providing it wouldn't damage that organisation. This includes sexual orientation, when you have / don't have sex, which kind of sex you prefer, and a whole lot of other stuff as well. The No Criminal and No Adultery parts I can understand, but the others I can't.
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