where did the speck come from? how did it get there? and where did the space for space come from?
I often wonder this, but in response my only answer is that its an element of the universe we can never be 100% certain about. I heard one good theory, about the non-existence of time and space and that it was truly a random beginning, simply a tiny speck of matter popping into existence, but that requires leaving behind any prior knowledge of how the universe seems to function. We get stuck on the "Something has to come before in order for it to exist", but if you think about it, if that were true we couldn't exist, by any theory, religious or otherwise. At some point, there had to be a beginning that came from nothing, whether God or not, and so the same holes in religious theory's exist in almost every single other reasonable theory in existence.
How could people believe that the earth, moon, sun, stars, planets, and galexies...we formed by a speck of matter?
I don't believe in the big bang with complete certainty, but I accept it as the most valid theory today, and the closest we've come to explaining the universe. Within a few hundred years its likely that it'll be disproved, just like most theory's before it, but for now I do place some belief in it.
but when they attack god or christianity...that's just wrong...and really, when athiests start attacking christianity or other religions, and try to get people to see things their way
You may see the negative side of some Atheists, but on the other hand you'll find plenty of religious groups bashing Atheists. The fact that we're mentioned in the bible, with non-believers going to hell drags Atheists, Agnostics, or any other religion into Christianity, and because of that there is going to be flaming on both sides. Often Christians are much more forward about their beliefs, and with people always giving credit to God, its hard to resist a posting a comment like that. If anything extraordinary you do is automatically given as something God did, wouldn't at some point you get annoyed if you don't believe in a God?
god is still building his universe.
What would Gods aim be to building a universe? I see no reason for a God to want to create uninhabitable planets and galaxy's, unless you put human characteristics upon him like boredom or curiosity, which would in fact imply he is not a God figure, merely a being with extreme powers.
That man does not believe in God...when he dies and if i'm right about god...he'll go to hell...He will go to the most miserable place for all of time...I've got to do something...I've got to try to get him to believe in gGod so that he won't have to suffer.
Which is a contradiction of God being loving and forgiving. A loving person does not only help those who believe in him, but why would he cast anyone into hell for what he would see as ignorance? Punishing people for extreme sins perhaps, but does someone really deserve to be punished when religion is past on more through family's than actual personal belief these days, and someone believing in the wrong form of religion has really done nothing wrong? Even within Christianity there are different branches, is only one of these right and the rest are going to be punished for believing in a slightly different version? I can accept that some people might try and convert because of caring, but I know plenty of people who are Christian yet hate Atheists for no apparent reason other than they don't believe in the same thing as them, I've experienced that first hand. Often the "trying to help them" reason doesn't make sense, when you wouldn't try to convert a Buddhist or Islamic person.
anyway, I fail to see why some people that don't believe in god try to get others to not believe in him. I can see the part where they might think they are doing som good for other people
Honestly, I don't try to make people stop believing in God. Although I disagree with Christianity, people have their own beliefs, all I do is try to represent mine, and when people place their entire life in believing in a God, I see more harm than good usually. Still, I try to counter points about Christianity being real because I enjoy discussions like these, even if they do devolve to flaming most of the time, I usually get a few good posts of conversation before someone comes along and posts "GOD IS REAL SHUT UP" like whats happening here.
