SNAKEBITE - What a crock of nonsense. You're Mormon? Why try to mislead people? Look. My boyfriend was a mormon and tried to get me to convert and I stopped after I learned that YES MORMONS BELIEVE GOD HAS PARENTS, it's called this magical land of PREEXISTENCE, and they also believe you get to become a god and own a planet of your own. WHy? Because Jesus was not around until he was conceived by God and Mary in JERUSALEM!! HA. Don't make me laugh. That's some other guy named Jesus but it's not the one born in Bethlehem!
How could Joseph Smith be a prophet of God if the Book of Mormon is false about the origin of the American Indians? DNA and archeological evidence demonstrate what everyone else already knows, the Indians came from Asia, THEY WERE NOT ANCIENT JEWS WHO SAILED OVER HERE ON A SHIP CAPTAINED BY A 9 YEAR OLD BOY! IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!
Snakebite, your own religion refutes your position:
We don't believe that God had parents
REFUTED - Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105 - "GOD HAD PARENTS"
We believe in ONE God.
REFUTED - Mormon Doctrine, p. 163 - "THERE ARE LOTS OF GODS".
When we die we DO NOT believe we will rule our own planet!
REFUTED - Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354. "YOU MAY RULE OVER YOUR OWN PLANET AFTER YOU DIE."
We do believe in Jesus Christ, and his sacrifice just like other Christians.
SUPPORT - Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247 "THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS WAS NOT ABLE TO CLEANSE US FROM ALL OUR SINS." so - Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188 "THERE IS NO SALVATION UNLESS YOU ACCEPT THAT JOSEPH SMITH WAS A PROPHET OF GOD.
SUPPORT - MORMONS REFUSE TO WEAR THE CROSS = NOT CHRISTIAN.
@Yielee. Scriptural proof would be nice next time. It's funny how you are so adamant about tearing this religion down. I can go into psychological reasons as to why people do this, but it won't be necessary. I'm not claiming to know everything, but as for your refuted topics, does that really matter? The Bible refers to Pre-existence. And as for the many Gods thing, that shook me up a little before I converted. If we are supposed to go back to live with God after we die, how can we if we're not perfect? That's where the gods thing comes into play... We are God-LIKE. The ruling over planets thing, we don't know everything that's going to happen after we die, you can't deny that. Who knows, we might rule planets, I don't really care either way, it's irrelevant at this point. And your last refute, it's taken out of context.. Just like ALL your information.
how come on their temples they have a cross on them?
We don't have crosses on our temples. For a very good reason too The atonement, or sacrifice occurred when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane (Or however it's spelled), when he suffered every pain and affliction, it was completed on the cross. But Since Jesus rose again, we don't dwell on his death, we promote the fact the He is alive. That's why we don't wear crosses.
Gray please stop with the needless ridiculing. I have shown support for my belief, therefore, you can't say that I'm being closed-minded, unless you can show support against these fact. I have also refuted the initial denial of a Mormon demonstrating them to be either mistaken or deliberately deceptive in their answers, which they later admit to in this most recent post. You don't show any evidence whatsoever to demonstrate that I'm being closed-minded, yet you go on with your own baseless claims.
Snakebite's Contradiction:
We believe in ONE God.
And as for the many Gods thing, that shook me up a little before I converted.
yielee, that whole post of yours at the top of this page is complete bull shit. all you did was take some sort of speach or priest's book, and insert a quote that was OBVIOUSLY simply the opposite of snakebite's phrase.
now, go find links to credible sites or he's right.
Oh really? And what are you doing? And once again... OUT OF CONTEXT! Oh and By the way, I googled those texts you cited (Yes they are real), but why didn't I realize that you'd just quote it OUT OF CONTEXT again! Read my post and see where you failed this time.
she probably googled the phrase opposite of yours and just copied down what it's from and the exclusive quote. in any quote situation, you should put down the entire sentence.
You're not not making sense by stretching things without any support, and twisting definitions around to fit your whatever, I was going to say your position, but I won't even call it that. The reason you sound so ridiculous is that your not even Christian, so you don't even have any insight into why a Christian might not like the Mormon or FreeMason cults.
When I WAS Christian, I had no problem with Mormonism for Freemasonism. Does that mean I was a bad Christian when I was Christian?
Gray please stop with the needless ridiculing. I have shown support for my belief, therefore, you can't say that I'm being closed-minded, unless you can show support against these fact. I have also refuted the initial denial of a Mormon demonstrating them to be either mistaken or deliberately deceptive in their answers, which they later admit to in this most recent post. You don't show any evidence whatsoever to demonstrate that I'm being closed-minded, yet you go on with your own baseless claims.
You are not an open minded individual. You are the sheep. You follow because your parents and or church told you to. You do not question. You believe and 'know' that you are right. You won't change your opinion on anything and you are an incredibly boring person.
Oh n just pointing out open minded means you are ready to change your beliefs if shown strong evidence. You seem ready to poke holes in Mormonism but you can't accept it when people disagree with your views. I know your type. I hope you can change. Or maybe you can stay being that sheep we all know you as.
So if it's ok to compare Mormonism with Christianity, which non-Christians have been doing here, then its ok to compare Mormonism with Satanism.
Wrong. You are not comparing two religions, you are equating them to one another. Saying mormonism is a form of satanism, while others are merely comparing mormonism to christianity and showing similarities.
In short you say:
______ is ______
They say:
______ is similair to ______
Also, your defenition of Christianity is obviously different from others, you need to be more specific.
Look. My boyfriend was a mormon
Someone told you something and you believed it. That's not our problem.
But Since Jesus rose again, we don't dwell on his death, we promote the fact the He is alive.
I just gained a lot of respect for Mormons. One of my fundamental moral problems with Christianity is the way it dwells on the death of Christ so much as to make a torture device their most powerful symbol.
Yielee, you need to learn to accept the possibility that you may be wrong. You seem to be arrogant enough to think you're definitely correct - so you take stuff out of context to back up your points, no matter how wrong the support is. Just supporting as point isn't enough - the support has to make sense and be in the correct context. All of the support for your arguments has been flat-out wrong - that's just as bad as having unsupported points based on factual info in the first place, if not worse. You think you keep winning these debates because you don't see us throwing around links every post, but in reality you're in a little bubble of arrogance where you see your arguments as perfect and your debating flawless. This is not the case.
Open your eyes. Stop cruising all high and mighty because you've got a Bible in your hand. Stop resorting to pointing out someone not supporting their points when they pulverize yours. THAT IS NOT HOW TO DEBATE.
IF you want to be respected, you have to act with respect.
I just gained a lot of respect for Mormons. One of my fundamental moral problems with Christianity is the way it dwells on the death of Christ so much as to make a torture device their most powerful symbol.
That's one of the things that made me curious in the first place. I hated wearing crosses, heck, I don't think I ever did.
