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Aussinizi
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For many years the neighbors to the south have faced political turmoil and corruption, with drug wars spilling into the streets of major cities.

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Poor, uneducated mexicans and their families cross the border from an unauthorized zone. They will climb mountains, cross rivers, and run from the authorities to make it into the US.

Of course, once they're in they have no money or job. So what do they do? They move into poor communities. They get menial jobs, ones that college students attempt to get. They force teenagers looking for work to quit as they accept lower wages.

Many times, illegals will rape, murder, steal and trade drugs in utter disregard for the rule of the law. They put their undisciplined children into our schools, where they will cause trouble as they have zero interest to learn.

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Whose going to take care of them when a crime happens? When they go to jail? When they go to court? When they are hurt? Who pays for their attorneys, their medical bills or their protection when they will break the law at will?

We, the American citizens do. In many states, they get full benefits of citizenship without the extra responsibilities and without paperwork calling them a citizen.

I pay my taxes, I vote, I work hard to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head. Why should my job be stolen from someone who illegally entered this country? Why should my hard-earned money be given to someone who breaks the law?

The constitution says we must guarantee the rights of citizens, not illegals.

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iceblade512
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Oh yea keep the mexicans away.

communist09
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We could of a while back during the mexican war, but instead we just took a lot of their land, so yeah. Although i think we should of taken it all


The reason being the government didn't want to give American citizenship to the indians already living on the land. They thought American citizenship should only be given to white people.
Grandslam
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Mehh... No one likes us crazy Americans anyway. Most everyone wonders how the heck we became such a world power.


Because we spend all of our money on bombs and weapons.
Moabarmorgamer
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Many times, illegals will ****, murder, steal and trade drugs in utter disregard for the rule of the law. They put their undisciplined children into our schools, where they will cause trouble as they have zero interest to learn.

And where, exactly, is this coming from? Are you saying that just because they are Mexican they will do these things? Bah! This is an opinion with lack of any foundation! Mexicans do not break more laws than Americans. If so, please provide some sort of proof for us.
And all I can say to the school bit is...we go to school to learn, to help us cope with life. That is the entire meaning of school. So if any child does not pay attention in school, and disrupts it, then it won't cause any major problems. It's the child's loss of training and education, and they are the ones who will suffer for it throughout their lives, not the school system.
Of course, once they're in they have no money or job. So what do they do? They move into poor communities. They get menial jobs, ones that college students attempt to get. They force teenagers looking for work to quit as they accept lower wages.

Communities no one wants to live in. Awful working conditions that no American would accept, and the illegals accept it because they need to, and they're desperate. Teenagers looking for work? You realize that's called child labor, and it's illegal in America?
Whose going to take care of them when a crime happens? When they go to jail? When they go to court? When they are hurt? Who pays for their attorneys, their medical bills or their protection when they will break the law at will?

We, the American citizens do. In many states, they get full benefits of citizenship without the extra responsibilities and without paperwork calling them a citizen.

That's wrong. We don't pay for them when a crime happens. Our taxes pay for the jail, and it's just as likely that money will go to an American prisoner as a foreigner. We do not pay their medical bills with our tax money! They either pay out of pocket or their insurance company does. Either way, we're
not the ones paying(although if Pres. Obama's new health care plan goes into effect then yes, that would be the case.). And besides, they do not have the benefits of citizenship. To get that, you must have citizenship papers or a green card or something, and as you said, they don't have that.
[quote]I pay my taxes, I vote, I work hard to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head. Why should my job be stolen from someone who illegally entered this country? Why should my hard-earned money be given to someone who breaks the law?

Stolen? I admit that unemployment rates are at a peak, and Americans would take almost any job, but stealing a job? That's going a bit far. I mean, they're paid almost nothing. Your hard earned money is not given to anyone. You pay your taxes. Taxes go to the government. How is that money going to them? And they broke the law, once, so they could live. Wouldn't you do the same? I mean, acknowledge that they are people. And then you might be able to sympathize.
The constitution says we must guarantee the rights of citizens, not illegals.

Illegals contribute just as much to this country as Americans do. They work just as hard, if not harder. And you keep talking as thought they're not human, or something. And are you saying that just because they're illegals, we should treat them as slaves? No!
florglee2
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Whats the problem with Mexican immigrants? They take jobs no one else wants, supply economic supplement, and rarely break the law, because of their increased punishment rates. It's people like these that made it so hard for my family to get here from Russia back in WW2.

Ricador
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Personally i think it would be easier to cap the mofos as the walk across.

(I kid I kid).

Strop
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Whats the problem with Mexican immigrants? They take jobs no one else wants, supply economic supplement, and rarely break the law, because of their increased punishment rates. It's people like these that made it so hard for my family to get here from Russia back in WW2.


Wait, I don't get it. What's the point of this post?
FishyDragon
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I don't agree with the wall idea. I would be very costly, and America is already very low in money.

FishyDragon
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EDIT: IT would be very costly.

florglee2
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lol I would be very costly. Strop, I was just disagreeing with his idea that immigants need to be blocked out by telling him they really aren't a burden.

silentclore
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a walls not gonna keep em out. they'll find other ways to get in.

Moabarmorgamer
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And besides my other comment(p. 25) I forgot to mention this.
A wall would be completely and utterly useless. You think a barricade of any sort will keep illegal immigrants out? Think again! It'd be a total waste of time and money in a swiftly sinking economy.

Maverick4
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What happens when the 'wall' gets to the coast? I dunno about you, but I've seen some pictures, and its just abounch of telephone poles stuck upright in the sand that goes about 6 inches into the water. I'd quite happily get my feet weet to get into the US...

And building a wall is just pointless. There are better ways to do this, using resources we already have. Like predator, smoothing out sand with tires, and patrols. Ofcourse, in the economy, building a wall would help generate jobs, but where would the Government get the money? Were already a 1 TRILLION dollars in debt...

Kody
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1. A barrier is already being built (although not one across the entire border, but pretty close.)
2. Yes it would be costly, but so is paying auto companies billions of dollars so that they can go on vacation. Which do you think is more important?
3. Of course it would help. Sure drug runners and desperate aliens will get through, but it will still hinder them. Think of it this way: A group of 20 illegals are in a convoy of trucks heading north, when they come to the border. A) Nothing is there-They just drive on and maybe the Border Patrol sees them. B) A fence/wall is between us and the border. They have to spend extra time finding out how to get through it, getting through it, and making sure all 20 immigrants are through. And if they get through unnoticed through all that time sitting in the open they'll still leave evidence which will point straight to them.
4) You can bet it will send a message to the Mexicans.

Just a few reasons.

florglee2
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Uhh, another reason a wall wouldn't work very good is because of these real snazzy gizmos I like to call ladders.

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