Many people thing Islam because of the events surrounding 9/11. But actually Islam is the right religion. The Prophet (peace be upon him) told us to be kind to each other, to respect our parents, and too worship the one and only lord Allah the most gracious, the most merciful. There will be a day, the day of judgment were we will stand before our lord and be judged by our deeds. To be a Muslim you must do the five pillars of islam. 1.Ashahadah (Believing Allah is the one and only lord and Muhammad is his messenger) 2.Salat(5 daily prayers, Dawn,Noon,Afternoon,Evening,Dusk 3.Zakat(Charity 2.5% of ones wealth) 4.Hajj (pilgrimage to mekkah at least once in your life if healthy and wealthy) 5.Fasting(Restricting food and water for a whole day in the month of ramadan) Also you must read the quran the words of Allah.(Like the Bible)
I really don't care what religion you are as long as you don't try to convert me or become a close minded little prick yeah i'm talking to you redbedhead.
Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. If they aren't in the class, the professor is entirely within their prerogative to kick them out, and have campus security escort them out if they won't leave. That has nothing to do with Islam. If the brothers tried to make it a religious issue, they're idiots. Frankly, the professor is either an idiot or a coward for letting it continue.
Hell, I wouldn't want to mess with Islamic fundamentalists if I was that professor. Sorry, but I don't want to be on their bad side. In fact, during that semester, one of the Muslim Student groups said they wanted to bomb the school. They were all expelled and charged, but in my area, there is no way I'd mess with Muslims. Sorry, but I'd rather live.
*Laughs* *Laughs Again* Well, Mr. Listman, you have not learned that we live in a prejudiced world. *wipes a tear from face* In fact, I doubt your school would have acted the way they did with the Muslim kids. The Christian ones would probably have not gotten that much trouble. In some places, if you're black, and you say you're gonna shoot someone, you get expelled. If you're white, people will take it as a joke, or you will get suspended or detention or something. Life is unfair. Don't put your faith in fairness that might not exist.
I know that we live in a prejudiced world. I live in Midwest USA. It's completely different from Northern Ireland. But even then, if a Catholic threatened to BLOW UP a school, they would probably expel them and call the police. Now the police may treat the groups differently, I realize that.
I'm going to come right out and say it. I believe Islam is a false religion. Think about this. It is my understanding that the Quaran contains a section which Christians would refer to as the Old Testament. Now upon reading this text, one would come to realize that not only are all humans inherently sinful, we are also tainted with the stain of original sin (Adam and Eve's defiance of the Lord.) So if one were to not commit a single sin in all of their lifetime, they would still be unworthy in the eyes of the Lord. No five prayers a day, no 2.5% charity, no Jihad and death in the name of the Lord will forgive you from original sin. And thats why Jesus Christ came ladies and gentlemen. What most people, and in fact some Christians don't know is that God is in fact THREE entities. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Now the Father is what most people classically refer to as God, big guy up in the sky, making stuff happen. The Holy Spirit is slightly more ambiguous, being something which can be neither seen more touched, but rather something which dwells within all of God's creations. Now the second of the Divine Trinity is the son, Jesus Christ. Thats right, Jesus was not the literal "son of God" he WAS God, incarnated upon the Earth. And he had to DIE in order to take away original sin, THATS how bad we were. Nothing less that God himself dying on the cross could save us. And those who believe in Islam are quite frankly wasting their time, and not using it to properly worship and serve the Lord. If anybody of the Islamic faith would like to argue with me, as an intellectual christian, I would love to hear what you have to say. =).
Donosld, some might argue that Christianity is a false religion. What you call the old testament is the Jewish Torah. So that argument is invalid. What you say about the Lord not accepting people because we are tainted with original sin and inherently sinful, well, praying and helping people would make the Lord accept us. The Lord presumably wants us to help people and be kind, so if we live a good life by his standards, than we would go to heaven. If a baby is born, that baby will not have any sin except for original sin, which is what baptizing is for, I think, and the inherent sins, well, the baby could lead a good life and still go to heaven.
So, were the crusades Holy then? Were they right? You must understand that every religion has had bad moments, and Jihads and Crusades are part of them. If God didn't want them, why did he not stop them? And the three entities are not relevant to this topic, neither is Jesus. Are you saying that the lord coming down as Jesus made it so that we could "see the light?" Are you saying anyone who is not Christian is going to Hell? How do you know Jesus was just an unlucky rabbi? Oh, yes. If he wanted Christianity so much, why did he not found it before he died? Why would he become a rabbi?
You failed to understand the basic premise of Christianity. First off, my argument concerning the old testament is valid, everybody before Jesus was Jewish, and Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism, so of course we would share the same texts. And to say Jesus is not relevant when I was talking about Christianity is preposterous, the only major difference between your religion (I'm assuming from your post that you are Jewish) IS Jesus. The fact about Christianity is that NOBODY is good enough to earn their way into heaven. I am not saying that Jesus came to prevent our sins. He came to FORGIVE our sins. Christianity recognizes the inherent sin within people, and do you know what, we say THATS OKAY. You don't have to be perfect, you don't have to leave a sin-free life. You just have to believe that Jesus Christ was God himself, and died on the cross to forgive your sins, you are forgiven, and therefore accepted into Heaven. What greater proof is there that the Lord loves us than the fact that He died horribly on the cross to save us. "He is mighty to save."
How do you know Jesus was just an unlucky rabbi? Oh, yes. If he wanted Christianity so much, why did he not found it before he died? Why would he become a rabbi?
Once again you show an misunderstanding for the basic principles of Christianity. Yes Jesus died, but three days later (Easter) he rose from the dead. THEN he spoke to his disciples and commanded them to start Christianity.
First, no we don't share the same texts. We use the old testament, you added all those other books.
Second, Jesus and the Holy spirits are not relevant in a topic about Islam. Those go into a topic of Christianity.
Third, everyone has committed sins, and God is forgiving. That is part of God. If Jesus really was God, why would he not start a religion instead of getting crucified? What if he was not God, and some person spread rumors that he was?
Fourth, are you saying only Christians will go to heaven? Why would god just find a prophet like Moses, and have something new put in the Torah?
Fifth, How could Jesus rise from the dead? I say it's a load of poop because if Jesus was God, he wouldn't be dead in the first place, so why would God occupy a crucified body?
Finally, why did he have to die to start a new religion?
So, you see, there are too many flaws in your argument. Although, this would be an interesting topic.
I'm sorry, although I am Christian I do not like to chose sides in arguments, but I have to say: Antolini, your 5 points really do not make any sense. You are arguing about things you do not know about. There is a perfect answer to every one of those questions, I just don't feeling like taking the time to answer every one of them. Maybe someone else will.
Also, These arguments depend on your point of view. To Jewish people Christians are those who foolishly believed in some crazy carpenter. To Christians Jews are those who chose to break off, not follow in Gods path and not believe in Jesus, who was Gods incarnation on earth.
Okay, I agree with you Flipski. I do not know much about Christianity. In my opinion it is a bit far-fetched. I'll say my argument in a different way. I'd like to point out to Donosld that Jews do not use the same texts as Christians. I also said that a discussion about Christianity was not relevant to a topic about Islam. I am a bit confused as to why God had to die on the cross for our sins. And I am insulted because Donosld implied only Christians are going to heaven. That is what I am saying in a nutshell.
Plus, Flipski, you make a very good point. It does depend on your perspective. Although you might have made a typo. You say Jews broke off. It was Christians who did that.
